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▲主题整理▲2000郭志均《青春》Plum blossom

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2000年第21回青龙映画祭男优新人赏(金来沅);

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偶觉得这片子可以说是村上春树的挪威的森林的近似电影版.3 X* Y. m9 I+ T) l( n

$ N# ^4 k: U, w) J0 N比如片中无法摆脱而自杀的苏勇,并且留下让杰游继续他未完成的青春奋争,这也是挪书中直子自杀时对“我”的寄望。
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而早年的自杀记忆留下的浓重阴影在挪书中也有,木漉的死就是直子和我难以摆脱的青春伤痕。一个明朗的带有救赎色彩的女孩子,在片中是娜末,在挪书中是绿子,她们自身都有着并不明亮的往事,但是却都在人前带着明亮笑容,敏感的,寂寞的,却很温暖。
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/ t- Q0 R) T  ]7 t: D7 |混乱的性生活,就像是人掐着自己的皮肉,在这种痛感中才能感觉到自己的存在,那欢娱的高峰像一丛丛青春燃起的火光,却让人更看清楚无可回避的迷惘。挪书和本片中对于性的直陈,因为从性中我们观看的是性的苦闷也是人的苦闷,而这也反观出我们自己同样的困境。
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最后一个情境简直就是挪威的森林的电影再现,那一通有着某种象征意味的电话,在不知道何处的电话亭拨出,响起在渴望靠近的温暖的那头,无可言说却重压着的青春和往事在这一刻释放,流下的是悲喜交织的泪水。在这一刻我的情绪也很难控制.+ N/ a' x& O0 u! V' M
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在看电影时,那挪威的森林曾经打动我的东西又一次回来了,虽然电影青春没有像挪书那样用一些歌曲来作为符号串起片子,但是单纯的乐声却同样令人心悸。而我自己的青春也水淋淋的打捞上来,死亡,伤痕,边缘,压抑,痛苦,激烈,迷茫,敏感,放纵。。。。。。就像我一直认为的那样,生活本身是比电影电视小说更精彩更震的东西。7 Q2 i0 L7 y6 m3 V; T; ^. `4 K, h
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7 ~8 g+ |7 b" t# Q5 D想刺激觀眾思考一些事情的片子!!
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更多的是去深入思索,性跟愛之間的辨證!!
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寫實為此片的基調,像是剪裁了杰游.蘇勇的一段青春歲月給我們看!!
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跟本片風格全然不符!!
1 [: M4 A* E' H2 u. }& Q- `第二,性愛鏡頭會不會過多?
! R) h8 F8 @+ K1 \以杰游為例,初次跟荷娜的性經驗與初次跟娜末的性經驗...
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同樣是沒有愛的性,杰游已經是兩個人!!
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他放縱自身所以染上性病,對待娜末像一個遊戲,眼神時而溫柔,時而殘酷...
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+ }, k; j$ [) l; u0 |I actually liked this movie a lot and although I agree that there is excessive nudity I dont think that it detracts too much from the intrinsic strengths of the movie.
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5 ]2 c! T1 N& Z  p+ YPlum blossoms is a coming of age movie for two young boys in a small town - who then go onto university. One falls in love with their teacher and another causes a fellow student to committ suicide. It is a story about sex and love -about the relationship between the two - and about the scars that we carry from our childhood into our relationships in later life. It is about how the people who are hurt in relationships end up hurting other people. And how in the end we have a choice to either succumb to these hurts and give in - or to embrace life. The two protagonists mirror one another where one inflicts hurt and one has been hurt by love. 1 `3 S6 G4 y6 b
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The pacing was slow and has many of the characteristics of the Korean melodrama. And although some of the scenes are played for laughs there is an underlying sadness underpinning the whole movie. Our memories are real and have and underlying power over us. It reminded me of "A Bungee Jump of their own" (and not only because of the lead) in terms of pacing and feel - but a lighter version.
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6 @. o3 Y4 o1 k4 lWould also be interested to know if Bae Boo Na used a body double - it seems that for some of the more explicit shots you cannot see her head. Although she seems to be quite comfortable with the nudity.

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Summary: Coming-of-age drama tiptoes on the edge of melodrama
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/ O$ S" i- n  e5 _3 I0 k$ CPlum Blossom is primarily about two schoolmates, Se-in and Jay-ho, and their transformation to manhood from the naivete associated with the late teens. Jay-ho is at first very shy about sex, but after his first very emotionally draining experience, he comes to treat sex in a very physical and emotionless manner. Se-in, on the other hand, falls in love with an older woman and seems incapable of accepting the reality that there can be no relationship between the two; his love for the woman pre-empts any deep feelings from developing with any other girls his age.1 \8 w& e, |7 y1 d# e. g
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Within this basic premise, the film follows the two young men from high school to college, and it follows their exploits and heartbreaks along the way. The movie manages to tell a pretty fascinating story about two very realistic, albeit different, guys. As their friendship deepens, a very tight, and genuinely touching bond develops between the two. Their closeness is so believable that there are many moments you almost expect them (or even root for them) to start making love to one another rather than the women they have such little emotional regard for. In fact, there is a homo-erotic undercurrent running throughout the film, both in terms of the relationship between the two males and in the way their bodies are sensually filmed. Se-in even at one point states to his friend that they are essentially one person living in two separate bodies.
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There is a point about 15 minutes before the end where I think the movie would have been better off stopping. Instead it continues on to a more dramatic climax, which I think took away a bit of the film's charm. Nevertheless, Plum Blossom is an intriguing and different take on the growing up theme and is well worth checking out.
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A first-love story that extends into an examination of sexual confusion among youngsters on the cusp of their 20s, "Plum Blossom" is hardly the soupy melodrama signaled by its exotic English title. Enlivened by yards of realistic, but not graphic, sack activity, it's a part-lively, part-sad movie, well shot, that's let down by a so-so script. Pic continues South Korean cinema's growing rep for full-on, sexually-themed fare.
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匿名  发表于 2004-5-23 00:50
多谢阿韩版主送上的大餐,对于象我这样的《青春》迷来说,无疑又让我重温了当初看此片时的种种心情,纵情朵颐了一番。大概是由于看村上春树的《挪威的森林》在先,并将之视为至爱,所以看完这片子,立刻从中看到了《挪》的影子。前辈flysofa的“比如片中无法摆脱而自杀的苏勇,并且留下让杰游继续他未完成的青春奋争,这也是挪书中直子自杀时对“我”的寄望”;“生活本身是比电影电视小说更精彩更震的东西”,我亦觉得很是一语道破。:虽然不曾真正体验过片中主人公的经历,却觉得那激情,那伤怀,那感受是如此的熟悉和难以忘怀,仿佛就在昨天。

本人觉得《青春》仅是挖掘了《挪》所想要表达的一个重点,毕竟是电影,想要在有限的时间内展现得深刻而有内涵,是必须有的放矢的。

再次感谢阿韩版主,刚才又看了一遍简短的MV竟会还有落泪的冲动,不禁有些唏嘘。青春无怨,青春无悔!

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我也來為這個帖盡一點力!!
8 O% z& H+ A9 V( j( z提供兩位韓國朋友,為[青春]這部電影做的mv…, D( ^% I- b. o: Q! b4 p6 s  Z( Z
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匿名  发表于 2004-5-26 12:55
谢了,河前辈 男生间的友谊和情感在这部片子中占有着不轻的分量。男生和女生对这部片子的感受应该是不同的。很想多听听有关这个方面的各大家的见解,特别是兄弟们的解读。;)

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发表于 2005-2-20 13:00 | 显示全部楼层

这部片子相对来说不是单纯的剧情片

有一定的内涵
* I& m3 W- |, M1 ?8 E' x是让人可以思考探索的片子
心静明了 [img]http://newphoto.1t1t.com/usr/3f/94662/1123428915_4.jpg[/img]

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发表于 2007-1-23 10:22 | 显示全部楼层
看着来沅才看到了这部片子,才发现原来韩片里也有这么有深度的电影。
& e1 W% {$ s! f  K3 k0 ]揭起青春的伤痕,然后再次彷徨,直至尘埃落定,欲火重生!

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发表于 2007-3-15 22:57 | 显示全部楼层
这部片子对于我的印象非常深刻!!~: u: b5 s. S6 }
这也促使我从许多收藏的电影中,重新温故那逝去的青春!- O2 {% C& s8 Z" \0 j
春逝的直白拍摄手法,对性爱的,对人性的迷茫,对人与人之间的
' w, X5 @( n5 {$ c$ [微妙关系很直接的崭露在我们的视觉面前,可又远远的超过我们0 V2 E6 f# b* q( |
视觉的感受!是一种精神上的升华!@@
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涞元对于片子的理解,很流畅的陈述在我们的面前,那只是演技层面的
# U% h! Y/ P0 k. d! G但从内心底片子展现出惊人的挪威森林的复旧感觉!@!这个层面是的理解是
# q1 z# i$ `# g3 j正确的!!也给予我们更加多的温故知心!!
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