【转帖】我看《外出》感受

绮罗星 · 发表于 2005-11-6 21:56

作者：wisey（新加坡）/ 奕奕珍心---孙艺珍中文官网
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My reviews of April Snow - spoilers galore!!!!

First of all, this is an art film. What is the difference? Ye jin the celebrity looks
glamorous like this:
首先，这是一部艺术电影。不同在哪？艺珍的明星look是如此的耀眼：

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In an art film, Ye jin looks like a commoner:
而在一部艺术电影中，艺珍看上去是一个普通人：

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Many scenes in AS were greyish in their tone. Less lights were used so that the actor/actress don't look perfect and glowing like celebrities. In fact, in many scenes, one can see the scars on Ye jin's face.  (She has some scars diagonally above her right eyes and they have been there for the longest time.)  To Ye jin's credit, she has managed to look like Seo Young.
外出的镜头色调都很灰，灯光也打得不足，所以演员们看上去并不完美，没有明星的光芒。实际上很多地方你还可以看见艺珍脸上的痘痕（她右眼斜上方的痘痕停留的时间最长），艺珍在尽力让自己看起来像舒英。

It is good that Ye jin can stop looking like a celebrity in this movie because people can finally see her acting skill without getting distracted by her beauty.
她能使自己在电影里不像明星这很好，这样人们可以不为她的美貌分心，从而最终看到她的演技。

Character of Seo Young
% r$ ^2 G: k1 e* @5 ]9 P. k舒英的性格

Seo young is spontaneous, emotional and lacking in confidence. Because Seo young is spontaneous and emotional, the audience got to see the many emotions of Seo Young in the movie as the story developed and this allowed Ye jin to show her acting abilities.
舒英有点无法自主、情绪化并且没有自信。正因为舒英的情绪化，随着剧情的发展，观众能感受到舒英的感情变化，这也给了艺珍演技的发挥空间。

Seo Young was brought up in a conservative family and she was taught that a woman should get married upon graduation and should be a homemaker looking after her husband.  Upon her graduation, her father set her up to meet her current husband and she has been a homemaker since.
舒英在一个保守的家庭里长大，被教育认为一个女人应该在毕业后就结婚，然后成为家庭主妇照顾她的丈夫。所以她毕业后，通过她父亲的安排认识了现在的丈夫，从此成为了一个家庭主妇。

In some scenes which were deleted from the movie but were captured in the AS making DVD, Seo young asked In su questions like "Do men find career women more attractive?" reflecting her own insecurity. And when In su commented that doing house chores was not easy, she replied "Thanks for saying that".
在一个电影中被删掉，但在制作花絮中可以看到的镜头里，舒英问仁书：“男人是不是觉得有工作的女人更吸引？”，这反映出她心里缺乏的安全感，而在仁书说做一个家庭主妇也并不容易时，她回答道：“谢谢你这么说。”

Character of In su
+ x5 H& G& z4 [$ p+ T/ A3 g仁书的性格

In su is a successful career man.  He has a strong sense of duty and is strong deep inside.
He felt deeply attracted to Seo Young but at no time, he showed any desire to leave his wife unattended.  His strong feeling for Seo Young was revealed when he cried his heart out after Seo Young left him.
仁书是一个事业成功的男人。他有强烈的责任感，并且内心坚强。他深深为舒英所吸引，但一次也没有表示出要离开无人照顾的妻子的想法。他对舒英的感情一直到在舒英离开他后，他痛哭失声时才释放出来。

Story and character development of Seo Young and In Su , A9 _! G; u4 y( m; ^. {2 Z
舒英与仁书的故事和他们性格的发展

Stage 1: Anger of betrayal and losing confidence
阶段1：被背叛的悲愤与信心的丧失

Both of them were infuriated after learning of their spouses' affairs.  Both could not understand what went wrong and suffered lost in confidence in themselves. Both were drowning in their own sorrows and swearing at their spouses.
在知道配偶的外遇事实后，两个人都表现悲愤，他们不能理解到底哪里出了问题，也对自己失去信心。他们沉浸在悲伤中，甚至诅咒他们的配偶。

Stage 2: Getting to know each other and feeling the attraction
阶段2：逐渐了解彼此，互相吸引

As it was not clear whose spouse was driving, both Seo Young and In su were asked to visit the victims of the car accident (passengers in the truck involved in the accident) to assist in settlements and this provided the opportunity for Seo young and In su to get to know each other.
没查出是谁的配偶负责开车时，舒英和仁书被请到存放出事车子残骸的地方协助调查，这为舒英和仁书提供了了解彼此的机会

After this, the movie showed the two of them meeting up and calling each other. Although the movie didn't show many scenes of them spending time together, there was a scene where In su was back in Seoul for work and Seo young called him because she was also back in Seoul.  This scene told the audience that they were confiding in each other regularly and that they were already like closed friends.
这之后，电影中的他们时而偶遇或者互相打电话，虽然并没有很多他们在一起的镜头，但其中有一场戏是仁书回汉城工作时，舒英打了电话给他，因为她也回到了汉城。这场戏告诉观众他们逐渐信赖彼此并且成为了亲密的朋友。

Audience also witnessed Seo young looking happier and less gloomy about her situation.
She seems to be moving out of her grief because she was falling in love with In su.  One scene showed Seo young bought a pot of plants and gifted it to In su saying "Please do not let the plant die".
观众们同时也可以看到，舒英不像以前那么忧郁，也逐渐开心起来。
她从过去的阴霾走出来正是因为她开始爱上了仁书。有一场戏是写舒英买了一盆小盆栽送给仁书，并且对他说：“请别让它死掉。”

One scene showed Seo young looking blankly at her unconscious husband and feeling detached.
有一场戏写舒英茫然地看着她昏迷的丈夫，感觉越来越远。

Stage 3: Emotionally attached and getting in bed
阶段3：情感相撞并且发生关系

By now, Seo young and In su have no doubt of their affection for each other.  The transition from stage 2 to stage 3 was a bit abrupt in my opinion.  There were supposed to be some scenes showing them getting intimate.  One was about watching a movie and they started to kiss and another scene showing them strolling in the park and started to hold hands but those were deleted.
到此为止，舒英和仁书对彼此的爱慕已经没有任何怀疑。在我看来，从第二阶段到第三阶段的转变有一点突然。这里本来有一些镜头来表现他们变得亲密，有一场是他们一起看一部电影并且接了吻，而另一场是他们在公园里散步并且开始牵手，但都被删掉了。

Rather, the movie jumped straight into a usual outing for the two of them and they ended up in a hotel  because they could no longer hold back their feeling for each other.
更甚者，电影直接跳到他们一次寻常的外出，但结果却是来到一家旅馆，因为他们再无法抑制对彼此的爱。

Other than a scene showing Seo young deep in thoughts and removing her stockings just before they explored each other’s bodies, Seo young embraced her new love readily.
Her sense of love was much stronger than her sense of guilt.  After the first time they bedded, Seo young waited by the bed and rushed into the bosom of In su when he woke up and they hugged each other tightly.
虽然在彼此坦诚相对之前，有舒英在沉思中脱去她的长统袜的镜头，但舒英却是很乐意地抱着她的新欢。她的爱远强于她的愧疚感，在他们第一次发生关系后，舒英守在床边，然后投入刚刚醒来的仁书的怀抱，他们紧紧地抱在一起。

There were more scenes in the movie depicting Seo Young's handling of her new feeling compared to In su.  There was a scene showing Seo young peeling the skin of an apple for In su as if he was her husband.  There was a scene showing Seo young coming out of her bathroom only in bra and in a translucent body hugging pants.  (I have a hard time trying to focus my attention on her acting in this scene but I managed ...).  In this scene, the audience could feel the excitement and joy inside her.  She was in love and her confidence had returned.  She stared at her body (as did the audience) and looked confidently at herself; probably recalling how in su loved her and recognizing that she was still attractive as a woman.
比起仁书来,影片中有更多的镜头来表现舒英对自己新感情的处理。
有一场戏是舒英为仁书削苹果，就好象他是她的丈夫一样。也有一场戏写舒英从浴室出来，只穿着胸围和有点透明的紧身裤（当时我很努力才能将我的注意力放在她的演技上……还好我做到了），这场戏中观众可以感受到她心里的激动与愉悦。她沉浸在爱河中并且她恢复了自信，她看着自己的身体（和观众们一样）并且自信地看着自己，也许回想着仁书是多么的爱她，意识到作为一个女人自己仍然有魅力。

There was no hint of any sense of guilt.
这里没有任何关于内疚感的暗示。

In another scene, Seo young was waiting for In su and she took out her mirror to check her make-ups; once again portraying the excitement and joy of her new found love.
在另一场戏里，舒英等仁书时，拿出镜子来看自己的妆，再一次地表达了她心里对于这新生爱情的激动与愉悦。

In su didn't have many scenes to show if there was any struggle or any joy at this stage.
仁书在这一阶段没有很多戏来表现是否有任何挣扎或者快乐。

Stage 4: Reality sets in
阶段4：现实的介入

In another typical outing of the two, In su got a call from the hospital that his wife has regained consciousness.  He rushed back to the hospital and Seo young was left wondering alone, eating ice cream, strolling along the beach and looking dejected.
在另一次两人惯常的外出中，仁书接到医院的电话说他的妻子已经苏醒。他冲回医院，而舒英则被留在那里，她徘徊在海滩上，吃着冰激凌，非常的低落。

When she returned to hospital later that day, she passed by a corridor and saw In su feeding his wife via the window.  Seo young was devastated and it just dawned upon her that she has fallen in love with a man who could not continue to be with her.  Feeling lost and desperate, she drifted back to her husband's room, and like a lost ship looking for a harbour, she leaned her head on her unconscious husband's chest and fell asleep there.  Note that this scene showed how much despair and how lost Seo young was because this was a man whom she no longer loved and no longer felt emotionally attached and yet, she didn't know where to turn to.
当她在第二天回到医院，从走廊经过时，透过窗户看见仁书正在喂她妻子。舒英被打击了，她也开始渐渐明白，她爱上了这个男人，但这个男人并不能继续跟她在一起。沮丧中，她恍惚地走回丈夫的病房，好象一条失去方向的船在寻找海港一样，将头靠在昏迷的丈夫的胸前并且睡着了。这场戏表现了舒英有多么的绝望和失落，因为这是一个她不再爱不再是她情感寄托的男人，但她不知道还能去哪儿。

As In su's wife was making good progress in her recovery, Seo young's husband was deteriorating.  Even then, once again we witnessed Seo young showing little concerns over her husband's worsening conditions and was more concerned if In su would be re-locating his wife to a hospital in Seoul.  At this point, the spontaneity of Seo young was evident again in a scene whereby Seo young showed her jealously and anger at In su after learning that In su would be moving back to Seoul with his wife.  They bumped into each other at a corridor and Seo young said sarcastically and angrily "Congratulations, now that you will be re-united with your wife in Seoul" and walked away.
仁书妻子康复的状况越来越好的同时，舒英丈夫的病情却不断恶化。但即使这样，我们也看出舒英对她丈夫已经不怎么关心，她更关心仁书是否会将他妻子转到汉城的医院去。从这一点上来说，舒英的无法自主再一次显现在我们眼前。有一场戏，舒英表现出她的嫉妒与愤怒，因为仁书要将妻子转院回汉城。他们在走廊上巧遇。舒英不无讽刺地对仁书说：“恭喜了，你可以和妻子在汉城复合”，然后径直走开。

By now, In su was struggling with his sense of duty and his desire for Seo young.  He went to Seo young’s room and asked her out for dinner.  Seo young, still jealous, rejected his dinner request half-heartedly.  With a little persuasion, they went out, have a good time (as did the audience watching them) and didn’t return to the hospital that night.
到此为止，仁书还在他的责任感与对舒英的感情中挣扎。他去到舒英的房间邀她一起吃晚饭，但舒英还在嫉妒中，不情愿地推掉了他的邀请，但经仁书的劝说，他们出去了，度过了愉快的时间(在观众的见证下)并且当晚没有回医院。

The following day while they were together, Seo young’s husband died in hospital.  Once again, the audience could feel that Seo young was not overwhelmed by her husband’s death. After the funeral of her husband, she went back to her hotel and packed up her stuff.  Instead of griefing over her husband, Seo young was struggling to leave Samcheok because she could not bear to leave In su.  In one of the highlights of the movie, Seo young sat in a café across her hotel room and watched In su going into his room and she smsed him telling him that she was leaving.  Ye jin performance in this scene was praised by many critics.
而他们在一起的第二天，舒英的丈夫在医院去世了。观众们再一次的感受到舒英对丈夫的事并不感到悲恸。在她丈夫的葬礼之后，她回到旅店收拾她的东西。她对于要离开三陟感到非常的挣扎，因为她不能忍受离开仁书，而不是在为他丈夫的死伤心。电影的高潮之一，舒英坐在她旅店房间对面的咖啡店，看着仁书走进他的房间，然后她发短消息给他，告诉他自己将要离开。艺珍在这场戏里的表现为许多影评家所赞赏。

In su cried violently on the realization that he has lost Seo young.  But his sense of duty for his wife was much stronger than Seo young for her husband.  In this scene, the audience witnessed one of the most emotional performance given by BYJ in all his works.  He broke down uncontrollably and cried his heart out.
仁书在明白到自己已经失去舒英后发疯地哭起来，但他对妻子的责任感仍然强于舒英对他丈夫的责任感。在这场戏中，观众将看到裴勇俊所有作品中最富感情的镜头之一：感情崩溃地痛哭不已。

Concluding remarks
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I could not help but feel that the script was disadvantageous to BYJ because In su was too much like BYJ in real life.  Both were successful career men and men of duty and with strong character.  This left him with a mountain to climb to please his critics.
我忍不住觉得剧本对裴勇俊不利，因为仁书太像生活中的裴勇俊，都是事业成功的男人，有着强烈的责任感和个性。这使他很难得到影评人的赞赏。

BYJ no longer needs to prove that he is a good actor.  Rather, many people are looking for him to show some breakthroughs and this becomes very difficult when he is supposed to portray a man very much like himself in real life.  To be fair to BYJ, he didn’t choose the script.  He chose the director and the project even before the script was ready.
裴勇俊已经没有必要去证明他是一个好的演员。很多人其实是希望看到他的突破，而当他要去演绎一个太像真实自己的角色时，突破就很难。对裴勇俊公平的话，我们可以说剧本不是他选择的，他只是在剧本完成前就选择了导演和这个电影。

Fans of BYJ and BYJ himself will recognize the breakthrough on his spontaneous acting in AS but unfortunately for the neutral third parties and movie critics, they will merely feel that BYJ is acting himself in AS (because of the similarities between In su and BYJ) since they were not familiar with BYJ's past works in the first place.
裴勇俊的影迷和裴勇俊自己会意识到他在《外出》里演技上的突破。但不幸的是，中立的第三方和影评人们只会觉得裴勇俊在《外出》中是在演他自己（因为仁书和裴相似的地方太多），因为他们可能本来并不了解裴勇俊以前的作品。

On the other hand, the script gives Ye jin lots of room for expression on the character Seo young.  Ye jin could convince the audience of Seo young's insecurity.  The audience then witnessed :
另一方面，剧本给了艺珍很多空间来表现舒英的性格，艺珍也能使观众确实地感受到舒英没有安全感，所以观众们看到：

(1) The joy and excitement of falling in love again – this was well done in the scene with Ye jin showing off her beautiful body and looking at the mirror with an innocent and uncontrollable grin.
(1)再次坠入爱河的激动与欢跃——这在那场戏中被表露无遗：艺珍看着自己的身体，脸上带着纯真和无法隐藏的笑容。

(2) Feeling lost and desperate after seeing In su tending to his wife – this was shown in the scene where she drifted to her husband whom she no longer cared for.
(2)在看到仁书选择了他妻子时感到失落与绝望——这表现在她恍惚地回到不再关心的丈夫的病房的戏中。

(3) Getting jealous and angry at In su for planning to re-locate to Seoul.
(3)变得嫉妒，因为仁书准备回汉城而生气。

(4) Seo young’s reluctance of leaving In su.  Seo young was waiting at the bus stop and didn’t board the last bus to Seoul.  Instead, she went back to the hotel and sat in a café facing her hotel room and hoping to see In su again.  In this scene, Ye jin’s portrayal of Seo young’s emotion received many praises.
(4)舒英并不情愿离开仁书，她在公车站等待，并且最终也没上最后一趟回汉城的车。她回到旅店并且坐在对面的咖啡店里，希望再次看到仁书。在这场戏中，艺珍对舒英感情的演绎赢得了很多赞赏。

Compared to BYJ, many people have little expectations on Ye jin.  Many just knew Ye jin as a young actress.  Even the director said during an interview that the Seo young character was intended to be a passive character in the movie.  This movie was originally intended to be the story of In su.  Strange enough, the final version of April Snow contained many scenes with Ye jin portraying strong emotions of Seo young and thereby enabling the audience to feel the movie from Seo young’s perspective and this allowed Ye jin to shine.
与裴勇俊相比，孙艺珍并没有得到大家的太多期待，很多人只是将她看作一个年轻的女演员。即使导演也在一个采访中说舒英在这部电影中只是一个被动的角色，这部电影本被设定为仁书的故事。但奇怪的是，《外出》最后出来的版本却有很多艺珍演绎舒英强烈感情的戏，观众能从舒英的角度来感觉这部电影，也使得艺珍在这部电影里更加突出。

Teruoka Socho, the organizer of Tokyo International Film Festival and a movie critic, wrote in his review “BYJ acted well above expectations and Son Ye jin’s performance was shocking”
东京国际电影节的组织者，影评人Teruoka Socho在他的影评中写道：“裴勇俊的表演比预期的要好而孙艺珍的表现更是惊人。”

Thanks to BYJ and Director Hur, Ye jin now has a stage to show her talents and the Japanese obviously love her.  A big money CF in the form of Georgia coffee brand followed soon after and news of movie projects from Japanese companies are surfacing.
由于裴勇俊和许导演，艺珍有了一个展示她才能的机会，而日本人明显爱上了她。一个巨额的广告案Georgia咖啡随后而来，与日本公司合拍新电影的提案也浮出水面。

As a ye jin fan, I do not think AS is my favourite movie because A Moment To Remember moved me much more at the emotional level.  Just like many audience, art movie is not for me.  But AS will always be a milestone for Ye jin and for many male fans, the movie that makes us realized Ye jin is not 100% angelic.  She has the face of an angel and the body of the devil ~smile~.
作为艺珍的影迷，我并不认为《外出》是我的最爱，因为在情感层面上，《我脑中的橡皮擦》使我更加感动。和很多观众一样，艺术电影并不是我的类型。
但是《外出》将会成为艺珍的一个里程碑，同样也是很多男性影迷的。这部电影让我们明白到艺珍不是100%的天使，她有着天使的脸孔，但有着魔鬼的身材（~笑~）

Ending of April Snow% R  J- K) Z: k1 |
《外出》的结尾

The ending dialogue of AS was:
外出结尾处的对白是：

Seo young: "What should we do today?"
舒英：我们今天要做什么？

In soo: "What do you want to do?"
仁书：你想做什么？

This was exactly opposite to the dialogue in the scene inside the restaurant beside the sea (just before they made love the first time). Then it was:
这与他们曾经在海边餐厅所说的话完全相反（在他们第一次发生关系前），那时他们说的是：

In soo: "What should we do today?"
仁书：我们今天应该做什么？

Seo young: "What do you want to do?"
舒英：你想做什么？

These was new dialogue and the intention of this dialogue was to tell the audience they have met.
这是全新的对白，而这对白想告诉我们的是，他们已经见面了。

[ Last edited by 绮罗星 on 2005-11-7 at 01:05 ]

也许有一天 · 发表于 2005-11-7 11:39

顶好文章

fancy2001 · 发表于 2005-11-7 12:57

让我对外出有了新的感受，再看一遍好了

贝壳海母 · 发表于 2005-11-7 13:23

要看看了，有我喜欢的孙艺珍那

花贵仔 · 发表于 2005-11-7 13:31

哇~辛苦翻译了,呵呵

小象公主 · 发表于 2005-11-8 01:10

太好了,果然最后的那个女声是孙艺珍的声音

美丽的日子． · 发表于 2005-11-8 11:23

文笔了得啊，写的细腻！！

莘菲11 · 发表于 2005-11-8 15:02

我建议大家一定要去看这部片子然后在评论呵，因为这是一位凝聚着不错的导演，和两位实力演员共同心血的结晶，影片肯定是有它的可取之处的。

我看过以后觉得不错啊，可以看出导演和演员都很用心。我个人只是觉得场景有些不连贯，可能我不是学导演的吧，不懂得导演艺术吧呵呵。

我些亲们评论裴裴在里面的发挥不如孙姐姐，我觉得不是很赞同的，有如下理由：
1，角色本身的限制。女人表达悲伤或者说发泄的方法比男人多，比如哭泣。情感可以表露在外，而男人大多是聚集在心，借酒哭泣，这就限制了PP的内心吸要比ZZ多，表达的要更含蓄些，所以角色就更难把握了。
2，裴裴和珍珍本身。PP比ZZ要红的多，大家对他也关注的多，要求也高的多，大家都关注着他在这部戏里有怎样超越自我的表现，而ZZ相对于PP还是新人，大家只觉得她的演技到位就好了。
其实在这部戏里看到了PP超越自己的表现，也可以看到他的努力，我想只要是关注他，看过他大部分片子的亲们是可以感觉的到的呵呵。ZZ表现的也很好啊，可塑性很好啊！！
3，宣传力度大。这点是可以理解的，PP太红了，导演也是很有名的，ZZ也是很幸运的新星，大家关注本片很多啊，期望值过于高了，人无完人，人拍摄的片子肯定会有瑕疵的，而且大家的欣赏口味不同，说不好的再所难免的呵呵。

所以大家要看完片子后在慢慢评论哦！！

PS：这位导演的片子一向是要一遍遍慢慢品位的哦呵呵！
他的拍摄方法也很独特，据说和王家卫有些象，很难拍的。

gy240624 · 发表于 2005-11-8 20:45

诠释的好清楚，让我想在看一次

叶在树梢 · 发表于 2005-11-8 22:29

说实话,这剧还真是得看过后,再找些评论来看
这样更能充分理透一些内在的东西

不是偶然 · 发表于 2005-11-9 07:39

赞同楼上的
我现在还没看过《外出》
但有看过又很喜欢《外出》的朋友（45岁的阿姨，铁杆珍迷）一直担心我不能完全看懂，说等我看完第一遍要给我做看后辅导。
其实以自己的视角看一次，再以别人的视角看一次，也的确是有意思的事情呢。

基努里维斯 · 发表于 2005-11-9 15:23

好文章。偶也素孙迷～
她所有的作品偶都追看了～

这部国内还没正式上映呢。有机会能看原版片就好了～

aiqin_21 · 发表于 2005-11-9 16:38

没看过不知道

youzicha · 发表于 2005-11-9 17:02

没看过同，不过现在好想看。

huhy2002 · 发表于 2005-11-9 19:54

孙艺珍感觉上很漂亮很清纯,这次的表演确实是个大挑战啊,呵呵

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