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0 }1 O: R" ~+ s' OTo the detectives who carry an unresolved knot in their hearts¡¦6 f; ?5 S, e" q0 @7 O6 n' n9 \
It has been days since I've been home.
, `- s/ d' M) R- a$ n+ rI am beginning to forget the faces of my wife and my children.
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4 k3 h& r# E; {: Uthey are all screaming for us to catch the killer within three days.
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We lack the equipment, technology, people, everything.
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But we really, truly, desperately want to catch the killer.
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We dedicate this film to the detectives who finally had to admit bitter defeat.
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To the blameless women¡¦
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when the soft hands of the killer slowly started to enclose around your neck,
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We dedicate this film to the ten women who, if not for those hellishly dark nights, would still be walking the country roads under the bright sun.
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Where are you now?3 d9 q8 s. R) K/ [9 d) _. C6 v
Do you remember the women you killed?
- `7 g9 n4 v) |$ z! @Are you happy?
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0 a! _* c: p7 h& V4 can interview with Bong Joon-Ho by Tony Rayns (of B.F.I.’s Sight & Sound Magazine)
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7 i. f1 i! r2 n, MBong Joon-Ho (b.1969) graduated from the Korean Academy of Film Arts in 1994 with what is still talked about as one of the wittiest and most original shorts ever made by an academy student. This was Incoherence (Ji Ri Myeol Ryeol, 28 Minutes), a social satire in four chapters, the last of which contains the venom. Bong went onto work as co-writer and assistant director on Park Ki-Yong’s Motel Cactus (1997) and as co-writer on Min Byung-Chun’s thriller Phantom, The Submarine (1999).
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His own debut feature was Barking Dogs Never Bite, a notably original comedy-drama whose protagonists are variously dog-lovers, dog-haters and dog-eaters. This established Bong’s distinctive style: a skilful balance between dispassion and empathy, backed up by a sharp eye for social inequalities (Bong’s preferred English title for the film is A Higher Animal.) It did the rounds of festivals and picked up some prizes, but wasn’t much of a hit in Korea.5 f$ n, X: D* \5 g+ g
3 M8 P9 e" M! a& F: U5 D5 d3 k/ ESince the commercial and critical success of Memories of Murder Bong has made two digital shorts: Sink and Rise (2003, seven minutes), a sequence shot vignette designed to be viewed on a third-generation mobile phone, made for a group project to celebrate the twentieth anniversary of the Korean film academy; and Influenza (2004, 30 minutes), a tragic life story told entirely through surveillance-camera footage, made for the Jeonju International Film Festival’s annual digital project. Both are terrific. He is currently preparing his third feature, to be centered on a monster like the one rumoured to inhabit Loch Ness.
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This interview was recorded in Seoul in December 2003. Bong spoke mostly in English; grateful thanks to Kwan Jae-Hyun for occasional translation back-up.7 S1 S, Q# u1 s- _5 J
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Tony Rayns: Why a murder story?
* V* t- `/ C1 {5 H: v% tBong Joon-Ho: There’s an old tradition of crime movies in Korean cinema which are rather different from plot-oriented Hollywood thrillers, and I wanted to make something of that sort. The old-style Korean movies are essentially humane and emotional – that’s what I like about them. I’ve always loved crime stories; I read them all the time in middle school. I like seeing how people behave when they’re caught up in crime. And my first feature was about a serial killer of dogs.3 S% ]3 b. q: P. e9 o/ Z" H
; n0 l2 A/ g2 M* c6 D) @The film is based on a series of real murders which began in 1986. How closely did you stick to the facts?
% k9 t( ~. x4 V# R6 OIt was the first real case of serial murder in Korea, and I remember it being a sensation at the time. There were ten murders in all, spread over a period of six years, in and around a country town not far from Seoul. There was no financial or revenge motive; these were clear-cut rape-murders of women. Once I decided to make the film I started to do a huge amount of research. I became obsessed with the facts of the case. I went through all the newspaper reports and then began making interviews with people who’d been involved: journalists, detectives, townspeople who had lived there at the time. The person who had the strongest influence on me was an ex-cop who’d worked on the case. He broke down in tears several times as we talked. This put me in a quandary – I’ve never liked cops, maybe because of my student experiences fighting them, but talking to this man made me rethink. What struck me most was the purity of his desire to catch the criminal.* }+ B/ ]2 w( a; j) V) a: s
In writing the script I reduced the time-span to one or two years and reduced the number of victims. Most of the more gruesome details are taken directly from the official record. The murder of the schoolgirl, for instance, closely follows the most brutal of the real murders – but I added the detail of the Band-Aid. Actually, I filched it from Kubrick’s Lolita.
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But your characters are fictional?
2 D! ]0 ?/ ]; l7 S+ SIn 1996, there was a play about the serial murders called Come To See Me by Kim Gwang-Rim. I was working as an assistant director when I saw it. I ended up using several ideas from the play: the succession of three prime suspects, the link between the murders, and the playing of a song on a radio request-show. In reality, many detectives came from Seoul to join the investigation and the play dramatises the tension between them and the local police – but it shows them pursuing lines of enquiry independently of each other. I felt it would be more interesting if they had to work together and exchange roles. My producer Tcha Sung-Jai didn’t want to bother buying the rights to the play since the whole thing is based on fact anyway, but I liked some aspects of it enough to insist. The characters, though, are my own inventions./ f! ^* a/ V9 s$ \: M
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Maybe the main theme is precisely the anonymity of crime. In reality, the murders were never solved. The more I researched the case, the more I came to feel that the general social-political situation of that time was as much to blame as any individual. I don’t know myself whether the third suspect is the real killer or not.8 ^ K' J1 J: D( m! L# Y
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Very, very hard. There’s almost nothing from the period left, even in rural areas. My production designer and I found sites in Jeollado Province which gave us what we needed, and we worked hard to exaggerate the feeling of the past by highlighting older props and buildings from the 1960s and 1970s. We used the railway to unify locations that are actually miles apart; the idea of setting the climax beside the railway tunnel came from that strategy. I’d already started shooting when an assistant director found that location and I decided to use it.0 Q3 L9 b7 ?4 f- u2 L* H* @
I wanted to emphasise time more than place, but I didn’t want to be too specific about it – so I ruled out the idea of showing President Chun Doo-Hwan on television, for instance. Of course, many people seeing the film in Korea have first-hand memories of the period.3 h# B9 q8 C' C, {/ Q
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As in `Barking Dogs Never Bite´ you bring in elements of superstition – but don’t take them very seriously.
9 v; `1 m) ~) L& @7 N) T# T% @The reality was funnier and more bizarre than anything in the film. A shaman advised the cops to strip naked at the seashore and bow to a bowl of sacred water. The chief of police actually did that. And while doing it they were mistaken for North Korean spies and had to run. I decided not to use that; I’m obsessed with what you can read in faces, so I stuck with close-ups of my lead actors., `: N% F" z3 T
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I had three of the leads in my mind while I was writing the script. Song Kang-Ho, who plays the local cop Park, had told me he was interested in working with me. Byun Hye-Bong, who plays the local chief of police, had played the janitor in Barking Dogs Never Bite. And I `discovered´ Park Hae-Il, who plays the third suspect, in the play – this was long before he starred in Park Chan-Ok’s Jealousy Is My Middle Name. I didn’t think of Kim Sang-Kyung for the role of the Seoul cop until I saw him in Hong Sang-Soo’s The Turning Gate. He came alive for me then in a way that never happened in his television dramas. Hong Sang-Soo introduced him to me, and he turned out to be exactly right.
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I gave you a copy of Alan Moore’s graphic novel `From Hell´ when you visited the London film festival with `Barking Dogs´ , and you’ve said in many Korean interviews that it was a big help to you in writing `Memories of Murder´. How?
! w h. Q; A6 \+ z/ ?I was already interested in the Jack the Ripper case before I came to London. It’s one of the great unsolved serial murder cases, so it’s an obvious precedent for the Korean case, despite the very different context. I was curious to know how British authors had approached an unsolved mystery from a century ago, and I was very happy to find an entire `Jack the Ripper´ section in one London bookshop: fiction, essays, speculative solutions, the lot. One day before you gave me From Hell I’d bought Jack the Ripper: The Final Solution, which turned out to be a primary source for Allan Moore. Reading From Hell was a revelation: Moore pushed me to start thinking less about actual killer and more about the spirit of the times which produced the murders. Moore ultimately blames the age itself.
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Re:What is the ending on "Memories of Murder"??"
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Girl: Is something in there?
4 U9 {' k1 H% x' DIs anything in there?
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% v& E6 d {: S; l7 {5 _$ qGirl: A while back, a man was here looking into that hole.
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1 w2 l% V* O6 T9 J- qWhy he was looking there.9 {2 U6 Y, }7 s6 s8 j/ }
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3 m( v e) C) w& Y" N! Bso he came back to take a look.
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4 z7 y+ h9 M: `, Z- K, xWhat did he look like?! b) w# z, p, [5 d" {' @6 Y! ]1 d
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7 t, Y. U9 r' Y* X) t) fPark: In what way?
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More important than the dialogue at the end is the closing shot. Upon hearing what the girls has to say and bit startled, Song Kang-ho gives a deep look into the camera as it pans out (if I remember correctly). This stare, as someone on this board noted, is supposed to be a message of sorts to the actual killer (should he be alive) sitting in the theater or at home watching the movie. Quite chilling.& o; H2 T5 m; a8 `" M
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I think the quaoted part was from my posting. If you didn't know about the back story, it might be hard to catch the meaning of ending. I will put some background story about this movie for better understanding.
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MOM is a film adaptation of a theater play "Come to See Me!". The original playwriter once had a strange vision, that the mysterious serial killer lived ordinary and free life and came to see a play about serial murder and he realized that it was about his crime. The writer want to send a message to him. The title of play is directly citing the murderer.
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Mr. Bong wanted to make this play a movie. He once told to the media "The first step of the punishment to this unthinkable crime is to remember what happened to the victims, to make him realize that we will never stop to find him." ; S# \, W* ^9 K: R* o
$ k/ [$ [# |0 V0 e5 A, t6 ~There is another interesting story about making of MOM. Park Chan Wook also wanted to make the movie based on the same play "Come to see me!". But when he visited playwriter, he heard that Bong visited the writer just a few days ago and bought the story.
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Disappointed, Park went to Bong and asked what was his next idea. Bong told him, after MOM he want to make a movie based on Japanese Manga called "Oldboy". "Oh, really?" Well, the rest, you already know. Actually, Park and Bong are very good friends, they are teasing each other for who stole whoes idea first.
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" |7 z. W& a' v1 e5 T2 vBut if Park went to the playwriter just a week earlier, we should have seen, Park's Memories of Murder and Bong's Oldboy. 0 t- |1 I" ]5 L# [+ F. f
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I saw the stare somewhat differently. In pure story terms, it represents the former detective's frustration, the futility of his efforts and his innability to ever even come close to solving this case, all coming to a boil after years during which he supressed these emotions. Try as they might, the detectives in the story never really unearth a single useful clue as to the identity of the murderer; the climax to such a story is this welling-up of impotence following the revelation that he will never really learn the killer's identity, or apprehend him.
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7 X: K. m) E2 q7 v$ T! bI suppose the interface with the killer in the audience is accomplished at the same time, but I find the story-bound reading much more resonant, as it echoes most strongly the predominant themes of the film, especially the evocation of the dominant cultural and political morays of the time that prevent the detectives from digging any deeper than they do.
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$ d1 z. \3 g0 ] G$ KIt might be of some interest to you that Bong Jun-ho's published screenplay actually ends with the back profile of the murderer slowly walking into and getting lost in the crowd somewhere in Seoul... I remember reading "KFC" and "Starbucks" so somehow it made me think of Daehangno... The decision to end the film with Song Kang-ho's stare seems to have been a later addition. Of course, this is the superior ending.
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One deleted scene also shows that Kim Sang-kyung's detective encountering spectral presence of the real murderer, almost like a scene from a Gothic horror. 2 ?. U. w# O- M0 T
1 x2 z! X/ U$ ~I "read" Song's stare as directly gazing at the audience... asking them, "Did you know about these murders? Where the heck were YOU when all this was going on? Do YOU know who the real murderer is? (And finally perhaps the implicit question... "Aren't we ALL the murderers?")" It sort of is an act of bringing back history and memory... my interpretation is totally opposed to what some Korean critics have accused the film of, that it encourages forgetfulness by providing the safety valve of a genre thriller for an ugly period of Korean history.
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1 J3 {* v2 f4 P7 s2 ]0 Q4 F"encourages forgetfulness?" I find that very strange considering it's a major, widely-seen motion picture that recalls and focuses very specifically on the event. I think MOM is as far from an exploitative genre thriller as you can go--nothing about its handling is very ordinary, and it's such a meticulously observed motion picture that you never are watching it without thinking about what's going on. I couldn't say I ever found myself thinking of it just as a movie, just as entertainment: thoughout the picture I kept remembering and considering that it was essentially a true story.
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