【2005SBS】【春日】【已播毕】【高贤贞+池镇熙+赵寅成】

lfh123

这收视率能高吗???

连我这个仁成迷都觉得闷呢。。。郁闷。。。

icy0213

Originally posted by 树妹妹 at 2005-3-6 10:54 AM:
终于看到那几个片段了.....
特别是恩燮快疯了那几段.真是心疼死我了~~~~~~~~
他这个比较真实.我觉的比恩彩哪个真实一些.
他还知道自己在干什么/只是控制不了自己,但恩彩是有点不知道自己在干什么了.

恩彩那确实是疯了

icy0213

我个人感觉春日里最精彩的片断大部分都是恩燮和贞恩的对手戏

lfh123

Originally posted by icy0213 at 2005-3-6 11:00 AM:
我个人感觉春日里最精彩的片断大部分都是恩燮和贞恩的对手戏

恩。。。

那才有吸引人眼球的化学效应嘛。。。

像现在不温不火的，没劲。。。

jojo.Z

I think the whole story about EH getting a letter from the hospital that wants him to come and study at America is made up. I don’t think that happened at all. Actually, I’m pretty sure that it was made up. Coz when the mom asks MJ if JE believed the story, MJ replies by saying that she did believe what she told JE. MJ says that JE is a type of person who would even believe in lies that people tell her.


原来恩浩要去美国当医生的事情是恩燮他妈编出来的啊！！
哈哈！我说怎么编剧不会这么没水准嘛！

树妹妹

Originally posted by lfh123 at 2005-3-6 11:08 AM:
恩。。。

那才有吸引人眼球的化学效应嘛。。。

像现在不温不火的，没劲。。。

应该多安排一些JJ和DD的对手戏.
看起来就是两个字.过瘾
现在发觉仁成真的很不赖.在年轻的演员演戏他能很快的带别人入戏.
和经验丰富的演员对戏也能感觉到他的强大魅力.甚至有过之而无不及的趋势~~

icy0213

Originally posted by 树妹妹 at 2005-3-6 11:50 AM:
应该多安排一些JJ和DD的对手戏.
看起来就是两个字.过瘾
现在发觉仁成真的很不赖.在年轻的演员演戏他能很快的带别人入戏.
和经验丰富的演员对戏也能感觉到他的强大魅力.甚至有过之而无不及的趋势~~

仁成属于遇强则强的那种

qxbgx

Originally posted by 树妹妹 at 2005-3-6 11:50:
应该多安排一些JJ和DD的对手戏.
看起来就是两个字.过瘾
现在发觉仁成真的很不赖.在年轻的演员演戏他能很快的带别人入戏.
和经验丰富的演员对戏也能感觉到他的强大魅力.甚至有过之而无不及的趋势~~

看仁成的每一部片子发现，他是那种不管安排什么角色，都能闪闪发光的人，所以观众的目光总会在不知不觉之间被吸引过去，即使算是男2号，也会获得比男1号更多的关注和好感。。。。

lfh123

看来大家都比较同意这个观点哦。。。

在哪里他都是闪闪发亮的星星。。。^   ^

jojo.Z

Question 1
What did Eun-ho and Jung-eun talk about outside her house? I think she told him that she has feelings for Eun-seub; that she can't stop thinking about him... I think she also asked EH to stop... Stop what? Stop comparing her to his mother?The sound of her crying is so heartbreaking... I couldn't see what happened cos it buffered again.   I could hear but I couldn't see...
问题1：
在贞恩家楼下，恩浩和贞恩说了什么？我认为她告诉恩浩，她对恩燮有感觉，她不能停止想念恩燮。我认为她还让恩浩停止，停止什么？停止再把她跟他的妈妈对比吗？贞恩哭的声音听起来真得很心碎，因为当时卡了，所以我没能看清到底发生了什么。我可以听到，但是看不到……

Question 2
What did Eun-seub tell his mom? Cos his father sounded none too happy... I think he was talking about being a doctor..
问题2：
恩燮告诉他妈妈什么了？因为他爸爸的声音听起来不太高兴，所以我想他是不是在谈论当一个医生的事情。

Question 3
When Eun-ho and Jung-eun were in his car outside her house, what did he tell her? I'm guessing he explained why he'd always compare her to his mother, isn't it?
问题3：
在贞恩家楼下，恩浩和贞恩在车里面的时候，恩浩跟贞恩说了什么？我猜他是在解释为什么他会把贞恩和他妈妈相对比，对不对？

Question 4
I didn't see this because of the buffering but listening to Eun-seub talking to his father in such a heartfelt way makes me want to ask..   What did the father and son talk about?
问题4：
因为网络缓冲，我没有看到画面，但是听到恩燮跟他爸爸似乎在用一种衷心的语气谈话，我想问一下，到底他们说了什么？


应该是wiwi的回答吧：
1.        Yes, ES was looking around for KA. JeongEe’s mom told him that the gang took her. He met that one gang asked him where KA was. The gang wouldn’t tell him, but he said that she was not taken just because of the debt she needed to pay off. ES tells him that he would pay off her debts for her, but again…the gang tells him that it is not just because of her debts. (but I guess, the debt she had was the MAIN reason. The minor reason was probably because she kept on running away from them, and they just wanted to give her a good beating or something…who knows)
是的，恩燮在寻找KA（是大眼妹吗？）。中的妈妈告诉他一帮流氓带走了她，恩燮去见了其中的那个黑道老二，问他京雅在哪里？哪个人没有告诉他，但是他告诉恩燮，京雅是因为借钱不还被抓走的！恩燮告诉他他会替京雅还钱，但是，黑道老二又告诉恩燮，京雅被带走并不仅仅是因为钱的事情。（但是，我猜测，高利贷是主要的原因。还有一小部分原因可能是因为京雅一直在拒绝那些流氓。他们想借此给她一个教训或是其他什么别的，谁知道呢）
2． Actually, this is one of the MOST important scene in this episode…so, I should probably translate it, lol. (there are couple of words I don’t even know what the correct term is in english, so I will take those lines out coz it doesn’t make a BIG difference)
EH and JE’s Scene:
EH: What? Say that again。
JE: I don’t want to see you anymore
EH: Huh？
JE: Lets not see each other。
EH: What did you say? (JE tries to take off the ring, EH stops her.) Don’t do that, JungEun
JE: Eunho.
EH: Go in and sleep. I will come pick you up…tomorrow morning.
JE: Listen to me before you go, Eunho. I was tired (more like-it was hard for her to overcome her obstacles). I don’t want to be tired anymore.
EH: I will not make you tired than.
EH: The stuff your tired of, you can tell me and we can discuss it. What makes you tired and how are you tired? Say everything and let’s talk it over. If it’s something that you can escape, than escape it. If it’s something you have to struggle through, than struggle it together. If it’s something to fix, than fix it. Lets just have it pass by like that. Wanting to break up and not wanting to see me…is not something to say. That’s…when we are unhappy with each other…that’s when we say those kind of words. You, are you unhappy because of me? Because of me, did your life become dark? Because of you, I was unhappy and now I’m just about in being happy. My life was dark, but because of you…it’s becoming bright. Tell me, are you unhappy because of me? Is it because of Eunsup? Are you bothered because of the shaky feeling you had for awhile? Anyone, can be shakened. I would have been shakened. I forgive you because the person that shook you up was my brother. Because the person who shook you up was my brother, I can forgive you. In the world, he’s a very kind person. In the world, he is also the person who has very bright eyes. I know by the way he found you. The way I see him respecting you, he’s really my brother. But Jungeun, there will be lot of times where we will be shakened by the many things in the time we live. From all the sufferings/shaky feelings, are you going to quit on everything you tried to achieve? I’m angry. When I get angry, I can be scary. Don’t do it。
JE: It’s not because of Eunsup. At first, I thought it was because of that…if it was because of Eunsup. But it’s not like that, Eunho. I wanted to tell you, but you always didn’t give me the choice to say it. I couldn’t say it to the person who would always be so warm to me. I always thought, you were the person to be the most thankful of in the entire world. Because I was so thankful, I thought I was being a luggage to you. I have to pay it off, I have to pay it all…but before I can pay it off, you always give me more and more. Because I received so much from you, I think I always will hesitate on everything. Stop it now, Eunho. I think that would be good.
EH: You were like a luggage？
JE: Yes, I felt like a luggage. I came all the way here because I had to pay you back. But it’s to complicated. I surpassed what I did.
EH: Look at me.
JE: No, just listen, Eunho. I thank you for everything. I really thank you for repecting/loving me. But now, I really want to stop having debts.
EH: Look at me.
JE: The stuff you said about if I disappear, you needing me…do you know how much those words trapped me inside my legs? I’m thankful and I need to pay you back, I couldn’t bare to take it off. Stop it, Eunho, stop it. Just stop it now.

事实上，这一段插曲是最重要的片断，所以，我完整的翻译它，（有些词汇，我不太清楚到底该怎么用英文表示，所以没有翻译，但是意思并没有什么大不同）

恩浩和贞恩的片段：
恩浩：什么？你再说一遍。
贞恩：我不想再见到你了。
恩浩：嗯？
贞恩：我们不要再见面了。
恩浩：你在说什么？（贞恩试图去拿掉戒指，恩浩阻止了她）别这样，贞恩。
贞恩：恩浩……
恩浩：进去吧，睡一觉，明天早上我回来接你。
贞恩：你走之前请听我说，恩浩，我很累。我不想再这么累了！
恩浩：我不会再让你累了！
贞恩：恩浩……
恩浩：你究竟在累什么，你告诉我，我们一起解决它。什么使你这么累，你怎么累？都说出来，我们把话说开了。如果这些事情是可以逃避的，那就逃避它。如果这些事情是需要去努力的，那我们就一起去努力。如果这些事情是需要去确定的，那就去确定它。让我们就像这样把它解决。想要分手，不想再见我这样的话，并不是说我们在一起的时候不开心，那是当我们说这种话的时候。你，你因为我会不开心吗？因为我，你的生活会变得灰暗？因为你，我曾经很伤心，而现在我差不多就要快乐了。我的生活曾经很灰暗，但是因为你，它开始变得光明起来了。告诉我，你会因为我难过吗？还是说是因为恩燮？你是不是因为时而出现的不稳定的感觉而烦恼？任何人，都会动摇。我也曾动摇过。我原谅你因为动摇你的人是我的弟弟。因为使你动摇的人是我的弟弟，所以我可以原谅你。在这个世界上，他是一个非常善良的人。在这个世界上，他同样是那种拥有明亮的眼睛的人。我知道他找过你。我看到他对你尊重的方式，（尊重？妃子我真是没看出来）他不愧是我的弟弟！但是，贞恩，在我们的生命中还将会有非常多的时间，为很多事情动摇。就因为这些不确定的感觉，你难道想从每一件让你觉得很辛苦才能完成的事情中逃开吗？我很生气。当我生气的时候，我会很惊慌。别这样做！
贞恩：并不是因为恩燮。最开始，我以为是因为恩燮，是不是那是因为恩燮。但是，并不是这样的，恩浩。我曾经想告诉你，可是你总是不给我机会说出来。我不能对一个总是对我很温暖的人说出这样的话。我总是想，你是整个世界里面我最感激的人。因为，我太感激了，我曾想过我对你来说是一个包袱。我想要报答你，我必须全部报答你。但是，在我报答你之前，你总是又给了我更多更多。因为我从你那里得到了太多，我认为我总是对每件事都很犹豫。停止吧，恩浩。我想那样会更好！
恩浩：你像一个包袱？
贞恩：是的，我觉得我就像一个包袱。我一路走到现在是因为我想报答你。但是，它真得太复杂，我已经超越了我应该做的。
恩浩：看着我。
贞恩：不，听着，恩浩。每一件事情我都很感谢你。我真得很感谢你对我的爱。但是现在，我真得不想再欠债了！
恩浩：看着我！
贞恩：你说如果我不见了，你需要我，你知道这些话让我陷得多深吗？我感谢你，我需要报答你，我承担不起了所以逃开了。停下来吧，恩浩，现在就停止吧！



先翻这么多！我吃饭去，一会回来再继续！

[ Last edited by jojo.Z on 2005-3-6 at 02:00 PM ]

lclzxo1011

超级感谢偶家妃子的翻译

偶怎么觉得恩浩那些话，翻来覆去的说个没完？

应该１０句话就可以陈述完的事情，

他非要说上２个小时？？

jojo.Z

2.The singer asks what was wrong with JE’s face. JE asks why? She tells JE that her eyes are swollen up as if she cried all night. The drummer asks JE what kind of girl, Minjung was. JE tells him that minjung is always happy, smart, cheerful…etc.
唱歌的女人问贞恩的脸怎么了？贞恩问，为什么这么问？她问贞恩是不是因为昨晚上哭了一夜，她的眼睛都肿起来了！酒吧的大鼓小弟问贞恩民政是个什么样的女孩？贞恩回答说民政总是很开心，可爱，让人高兴……

4. Basically MJ tells the mom that since she has done what she told her to do, now she wants to know what the mom can do for her. The mom told MJ that if MJ helped her, than she would help MJ. The mom acts as if she doesn’t know what she is talking about. MJ asks the mom if she is also not the right person for Eunho. MJ asks her why she hates JE so much, but the mom replies by saying that she doesn’t have to answer her about that. I think the whole story about EH getting a letter from the hospital that wants him to come and study at America is made up. I don’t think that happened at all. Actually, I’m pretty sure that it was made up. Coz when the mom asks MJ if JE believed the story, MJ replies by saying that she did believe what she told JE. MJ says that JE is a type of person who would even believe in lies that people tell her. When MJ stood up to leave, she see’s EH. EH wanted to know what she was doing at his house. MJ lies saying that she was teaching the mom english.
民政告诉恩燮的妈妈，妈妈让她做的是她基本都做了，现在她想知道，恩燮的妈妈会为她做什么？妈妈曾经告诉民政，如果民政帮助她，她也会帮助民政。可现在，妈妈假装不知道民政在说什么。民政问妈妈是不是她也不是适合恩浩的那个人？民政问恩燮他妈为什么那么恨贞恩？但是，妈妈回答说你没有必要知道这些。我认为关于医院的那封信，就是邀请恩浩去美国的医院学习的那件事全是恩燮妈编出来的。我不认为它真的发生了。事实上，我可以确定，它就是编出来的！因为，当妈妈问民政是否贞恩相信了这件事，民政回答说贞恩相信了她说的话。民政说，贞恩是那种连别人的谎言都会相信的人。当民政起身离开的时候，她看到了恩浩。恩浩想要知道她为什么到他家来，民政撒谎说她来是为了教恩燮妈英语。（超级弱智的谎言）

5. Eunsup tells his mom to give him a lot of money. He tells her basically to think that she is buying him a car, and just give the money to him. The mom of course wants to know why he wants the money and asks him if the girl (KA) wanted him to give her money. ES tells her no. ES tells his mom that if she gives him money, than he would do whatever she wants him to do. Be a nice son again, go back to the hospital, take over his father’s hospital…etc. The dad appears and asks ES if it’s that easy for him to achieve everything that he said. The dad tells him that he had a lot of things he expected for ES. (The way ES said the things he said made his dad think that ES thinks that it is that simple to achieve those things.) He tells ES that he doesn’t want to buy him for money. He wants to see ES make his own money and work for what he wants to achieve in. ES tells his dad he already bought him with money.
恩燮让他妈妈给他一笔钱。他告诉她他知道她要给他买辆车，他让她把那笔钱直接给他！他妈妈当然会问为什么他要钱，并且问他是不是京雅向他要的钱？恩燮告诉她不是。恩燮告诉他妈妈如果她给他钱，他会做任何她让他做的事情。重新做一个乖儿子，重新回医院去上班，甚至会接管他爸爸的医院等等。这时候爸爸出现了，并且问恩燮，是否他说的一切对他而言都那么简单？爸爸告诉恩燮他对恩燮期望很多。他告诉恩燮他不希望用钱来买回他，他想要看到恩燮自己挣钱，并且为自己想要努力成功的事情而工作。恩燮告诉他爸爸他已经用钱买了他了。（不太懂，乱糟糟）

6. Basically JE tells EH to stop it and that seeing his face like that is hard for her to look at. She also says: ‘I am me, I’m not your twin that disappeared. I am me, I not your mother。
贞恩大体说的是：告诉恩浩停止吧，说就这样看到恩浩的脸感觉很辛苦。她又说：“我就是我，我不是你消失了的双胞胎妹妹。我就是我，我不是你妈妈。”

7. Kyungah is happy that the gangs released her. She thinks that they are crazy/weird to release her like that (so easily). She tells ES that she would promise to pay him back and thanks him for his money. She said she is going live her life better and pay him back.
京雅很高兴，因为那些流氓放了她。她感到很不可思议他们怎么就这么放了她。（看来她还不知道是谁救了她）。（这段好像又知道了，晕）她告诉恩燮她一定会报答他的，并且谢谢他的钱。她说她要去让自己生活得好一点，并且报答他！

8. Yeah, basically that is what happened. The dad called JE so that they can discuss about when they want to get married. He wants to have it done quickly. Although EH is his son, he tells JE that he didn’t see EH very much cause he was very busy. Than he talks about how EH wants to go and live at the Island with her. JE tells the dad that they are not going to marry. And about the ring, she tells him that she tried to take the ring off, but it would not come off.
是的，基本上就发生了那些事情（好像是开头提的回答问题）。爸爸打电话叫贞恩，商量她和恩浩何时结婚的事情。他想快点把这件事办好。尽管恩浩是他的儿子，他告诉贞恩他并不能经常看到恩浩，因为他总是很忙。然后他又说起了恩浩想要以后和贞恩一起住在小岛上的事情。贞恩告诉爸爸他们不会结婚了。后来，好像说到了戒指，她告诉爸爸，她试着把它拔下来，可是它拿不下来。（kao，早说啊！我去帮她耗下来）

9. EH and JE Car Scene:
EH: To do that, is it wrong? After hearing what you had to say, I thought about it. Just like what you said, I might have thought you were my mom. After seeing you live without talking, I was fustrated if my mom was living like you. If you lived well, than I thought my mom would live well. That is why I had you and shook you. My mom and you who looks like my mom, I wanted to have it all. Yah, it might have been like that. But, is it wrong to do that? In the world, there are lots of people who would want to marry a person that looks like their mother. Than, are all those people patients? Than, is it wrong? If I think you as a disappeared twin that my mom gave birth to or think you as my mom that I break up with or the times we spent at the island…does that all become an imagination? Is that all an imagination, JungEun? Did I dream?
恩浩和贞恩在车里的片段：
恩浩：那么做，是错的吗？听完你说的话，我想了很久。就像你说的，我或许曾经想过你是我的妈妈。虽然我们没有交谈，但在看到你的生活之后，我在幻想是否我妈妈也在过着像你一样的生活。如果你获得幸福，我就会觉得我妈妈也获得幸福。那就是为什么我想拥有你（这么说好像有点夸张，不过这个had我真得不知该用那个词翻译的好），又想逃避你的原因。我的妈妈和很像我的妈妈的你，我都想拥有。是的，应该是这样的。但是，这错了吗？这个世界上，有好多人因为一个人长得像自己的妈妈而想要跟她结婚。难道，那些人都是病人吗？难道，这就错了吗？如果我把你看作是，我失散了的双胞胎妹妹，或是把你看作是我亲手送走的妈妈，那么，那些我们一起在岛上度过的时光，是不是就都变成了想象？那些真的是幻觉吗？贞恩？我在做梦么？

巴厘岛╄夕阳

哎,,好怀念春日前几集里那个活泼可爱的成成哟，想到他为了博JJ一笑,给她买的
那双踩起来会唧唧叫的卡通拖鞋都好窝心,自己都感觉到很温暖,但是现在的成成却被
感情折磨得这么颓废^^^心痛啊, 但是昨天晚上我做了一个梦,嘿嘿，我梦见成成会说
中文也，他告诉我他很痛苦,我就劝他放弃吧,,把心放宽一点,把JJ放到心底里藏起来，恢复
自己开朗可爱的本性,可以到国外去一段长时间散散心,说不定在那里疗伤还有意外的惊喜,比如遇见一个像水晶的女孩啊,,,也许她的无厘头才会让你生活充满了欢笑,成成说那我和他一起去，现在我想
起来心里好甜好甜哟，可以只是做梦而已,感觉我醒的时候嘴巴都合不拢,最后我还问了成成一个问题
就是那双会发声音的拖鞋在哪里买的,他居然说在菜市买的^^^^看来今天我要到菜市去逛逛了^^^^

巴厘岛╄夕阳

看来中巴厘岛的毒还是那么深啊，现在春日又来了，
我真怕哪天毒发攻心,救不活了^^

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