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【资料】林常树和韩石圭的新电影《那时代,那人》

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发表于 2004-12-22 13:44 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式



路径:mms://mmc.daumcast.net/mmc/2/theater/trailers/T0002004.asf

lwang,偶都不知电影正确名字?

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发表于 2004-12-22 13:55 | 显示全部楼层

KITTY的动作真快啊,我来贴篇韩文的报道(具体内容只有等休息天啃字典了)

비공개 제작 10.26 ‘그때 그사람들’ 오는 1월 전격 공개

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“모든 것을 시사회로 평가받겠다!’ 10.26 사건을 다뤄 화제가 된 영화 ‘그때 그사람들’(감독 임상수,제작 강제규&명필름)이 1월 하순 공개 시사회를 통해 평가받겠다는 입장을 전했다. 1979년 10.26 사태를 정면으로 다뤄 관련 인물들의 반발이 예상되고 있는 가운데 제작사인 강제규&명필름측은 21일 영화 크랭크업 사실과 함께 향후 일정을 공개했다.

강제규&명필름측에 따르면 ‘그때 그사람들’은 지난 1979년 10월 26일 하루에 일어났던 역사적 사건을 기초로 하여 새롭게 창작한 영화로, 그날 영문도 모른 채 대통령 살해사건에 가담했거나 휘말리고 결국 비극적 최후를 맞는 사람들의 이야기를 다루고 있다.

하지만 관련 인물들의 반발을 예상한 탓인지 대통령을 중심으로 권력의 핵심에 있었던 사람들의 이야기가 아니라, 한석규가 맡은 중앙정보부 과장을 중심으로 그의부하들의 이야기에 초점을 맞췄다는 점을 강조했다.

하지만 영화는 실명의 사용을 피하고 있지만 중앙정보부의 주요인물들을 다루고 있고 대통령이 암살된 이날 하루의 일들을 급박하게 그리고 있는 만큼 관련 인물의 반발을 피할수 없을 전망이다.

이에대해 강제규&명필름측은 “영화가 10월 26일 대통령 살해사건을 다뤘다는 소재만으로 정치적으로 잘못 해석될 우려가 있어 제작 과정을 그동안 언론에 알리지 않았다”면서 “최종 완성된 영화를 1월 하순께 공식시사회를 통해 언론에 공개하고 평가 받겠다”고 밝혔다.

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 楼主| 发表于 2004-12-22 14:10 | 显示全部楼层
是跟白先生搭挡,有戏

不知选谁当女克格勃,勾引老韩同志

李美娴要当台风当主角,利好

崔教父新戏不是喜剧,当沙袋打

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发表于 2004-12-22 14:33 | 显示全部楼层

看来明年有很多好戏看啊.

老韩今年<红字>算热身,新片算正式上场了.美研已经好久不见了.

当初偶知道林导演是这种历史题材的电影的导演的时候,偶很纳闷啊(这个片子是以1979年朴正熙被刺的10.26事件为素材的.),因为之前的<偷情家族>印象太深,怎么也不会联想到林导演怎么能拍这种电影,也许偶脑子中的历史题材还是象<实尾岛>那样的一本正经的严肃电影吧.看了这宣传画,看到老韩嘴里吹出的泡泡,偶差点一口水喷出来,没搞错吧?然后又看到了这个预告片偶才有点领悟,果然是林的风格,感觉这个片子是以一种黑色的调侃的风格说历史事件的,不同于严肃的《实尾岛》,也不同于通过小人物来说历史的《孝子洞理发师》。

不知道为什么,感觉和以前的《NO。3》有点象,政治圈的争权夺利本和黑帮的争权多利无甚区别,白允植先生的角色有点象黑帮的老大,而老韩的角色颇有点太朱的味道(都是跟班的)。

看来这个片子有看头,有点与众不同的说历史。估计肯定会有一番争议。

这个电影明年春节前后上映。

P.S.电影的名字如果只是按照字面直接翻译“那时代,那人”,要再好的解释,只有等中文的消息出来了。

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发表于 2004-12-22 18:30 | 显示全部楼层

by vibfft

"A new movie about President Park's Assassination on Oct..."


           Geu-ddae Geu Sa-ram-deul will be in theaters in early February.
(literal translation = Those people at That Time)

This is a movie about the former Pres. Park Chung-hee,s assassination on Oct. 26, 1979, his womanizing,
and pro-Japanese tendencies. It has been filmed in secret. It's expected that this movie will be
quite controversial socially as well as politically since his daughter, Park Geun-hae, is presently the leader of the opposition party.

According to the producer, Kang Je-Kyu & Myung Film, the movie has costed about 6 million USD.
The movie starrs Han Suk-kyu as the immediate subordinate (right-hand man) of the KCIA director, Kim Jae-kyu.
It is rumored that the the staff had to sign a secret agreement not to divulge the production of the movie
of this nature for fear that the production could be stopped prematurally due to the protests of the
conservatives loyal to Pres. Park.

Kim Jae-kyu is played by Baek Yun-shik and Song Jae-Ho acts Pres. Park. The movie is directed by
Yim Sang-soo who also directed "Ba-ram-nahn Ga-jok"(Unfaithful Family?)

The movie is told by the view point of Han Suk-kyu (immediate subordinate of Kim Jae-kyu) on October 26, 1979,
the day that Pres. Park was assassinated. He agonizes over the fate that he has to kill his own to
carry out the conspiracy to assassinate Pres. Park.

In order to stem the lawsuit arising from the defamation of the characters involved in the movie,
assumed names were used. It was largely known that the producers had a difficulty finding a distributer
for the movie. At the end, CJ Entertainment agreed to distribute the movie.

Although the opposition party spokeswoman dismissed the movie as having no paritcular importance (i.e. no big deal), she emphasized that
writing of history should be factual and accurate.

p.s.: this is not a complete translation of the original article. I have edited out some of the contents which I thought
were unimportant and inappropriate.
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发表于 2004-12-22 21:08 | 显示全部楼层

谢谢阿韩的转的英语文章.

看来这个电影又是个烫手的山芋啊.

这两天韩国网站上关于这个电影的消息非常多,其中有一篇的题目就是"那时代那人没有政治性的意图".

这次林导演要搞大了.(不过有一点,这次林同志的作品还是离不开性,而且讲到前总统头上去了,胆子够大)

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 楼主| 发表于 2004-12-23 12:41 | 显示全部楼层
Originally posted by lwang at 2004-12-22 02:33 PM:
看到老韩嘴里吹出的泡泡,偶差点一口水喷出来


偶也是,联想的不是口香糖,而是成人用品,从红字起,老韩就与过去BYBY

感觉电影风格似足孝子洞上半场,黑色调侃。上档那朴女议员又应该气得浑身发抖吧。孝子洞就抗议丑化她老窦

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发表于 2004-12-23 13:52 | 显示全部楼层
Originally posted by kittymimi at 2004-12-23 12:41 PM:
偶也是,联想的不是口香糖,而是成人用品,从红字起,老韩就与过去BYBY

感觉电影风格似足孝子洞上半场,黑色调侃。上档那朴女议员又应该气得浑身发抖吧。孝子洞就抗议丑化她老窦


"成人用品"?,,偶倒,偶倒.< KITTY 的想象力太丰富了>

朴女士这次肯定更气,这次可是揭得更厉害.

干么要和过去彻底BYE,BYE呢?偶还是很怀念那个温柔的男子形象以及那个温柔的笑容啊?

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 楼主| 发表于 2004-12-23 18:56 | 显示全部楼层
Originally posted by lwang at 2004-12-23 01:52 PM:
"成人用品"?,,偶倒,偶倒.< KITTY 的想象力太丰富了>

朴女士这次肯定更气,这次可是揭得更厉害.

干么要和过去彻底BYE,BYE呢?偶还是很怀念那个温柔的男子形象以及那个温柔的笑容 ...


不是想像,偶童年住在医院,跟一帮小朋友拿此物当气球吹着玩,碰上姐姐,偶不介意曝丑闻

韩石圭是演技老国宝,当然要尝试不同角色。挑战自我是他的心愿

韩国男演员年龄倒挂,老演技派的吃苦捱打,新偶像派的谈情说爱

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发表于 2004-12-23 20:49 | 显示全部楼层

海报像是画的,复古?

http://img.movist.com/?img=/x00/01/01/59s.jpg
林导胆子够大的,总统也"调戏"啦,国际接轨道...

海报2张
http://img.movist.com/?img=/x00/00/16/43_1.jpg

车牌是被刺日
http://img.movist.com/?img=/x00/00/16/43_2.jpg
相思只在丁香枝上, 豆蔻梢头.

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发表于 2004-12-23 21:23 | 显示全部楼层
Originally posted by kittymimi at 2004-12-23 06:56 PM:
不是想像,偶童年住在医院,跟一帮小朋友拿此物当气球吹着玩,碰上姐姐,偶不介意曝丑闻

韩石圭是演技老国宝,当然要尝试不同角色。挑战自我是他的心愿

韩国男演员年龄倒挂,老演技派的吃苦捱打,新 ...



不过三十岁出头点的有些男演员倒还好,张东健还是挺上进的,也没少跌打滚爬的,刘智泰也在冰天雪地里吃苦啊,阿秉也不是被吊打了吗? 不过, 裴吗,偶觉得他的偏阴柔的形象限制了他的戏路,估计也只能谈谈冬季恋歌这样的爱情了(他的最大贡献就是为韩国赚了足了日本师奶的日币--日本师奶,有钱也有闲啊,呵呵).二十岁出头的,只是在大银幕上延续着他们小屏幕的偶像剧的表演,只是一个拖上几十集,一个两个小时,仅此而已的区别.不过他们的年龄,供他们选择的角色也不太多.

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 楼主| 发表于 2004-12-23 23:16 | 显示全部楼层

                               
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小O不要刺激我,这铁甲虫太神气啦。偶今晚肯定做梦,恨不得立马把小日本的本田给休掉。谁说小日的省油轻便适合女生揸?

lwang,

林导的电影政治丑闻,性丑闻一个也不能少。所以泡泡就是啦啦

那82VS28的女主角,哈哈,你肯定会联想到地方。

偶说的是那帮小花美男和男花瓶。东健,大秉算走在康庄大道。眯眼一出道就没想当偶像,他现在跟老宋,老崔混在一起,不成才才怪。

昨天险些昏倒,许秦豪选上二个偶像演出新作。这部当流星吧。八月和春逝是恒星。

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发表于 2004-12-24 08:39 | 显示全部楼层

海报也很有意思.

车牌那张,哈哈,汉城1979年10.26, 两张阴森森的面孔,不知道在进行什么阴谋.

车子是凯迪拉克的吧?老牌的豪华车,本田怎么比得了呢?

的确政治丑闻中,一般少不了的就是权,钱,色.

<外出>听说找不到合适的三十多岁的女演员,只好改了剧本.这部应该比较赚前,尤其出口创汇很好.


*来年春节上映的有几部挺期待的作品,<公共之敌2>,金知云的新片,还有这部.象这种黑色的政治喜剧,台词一定要够精彩,希望林导演继续他以往的成绩,并能令人有所惊喜,这个颇有点另类贺岁片的感觉,喜剧,黑色,调侃.

偶现在只能早上匆匆看贴,晚上速度实在老牛爬.好在这星期老板出差,偶好晚点去.

P.S. 一条关于本片男主角的小消息(转子大公报)

韓石圭舉家赴澳旅行

韓國實力派演員、曾主演《生死諜變》及《八月照相館》的韓石圭,本月初拍完林常樹導演的《那時候,那些人》後,和妻子及三名兒女一同前往澳洲度假。以住家男人見稱的韓石圭,希望旅行能為自己和妻兒留下美好回憶。

雖然他去年復出拍攝的《雙重間諜》的票房平平,但觀眾對《那時候,那些人》充滿期待。林常樹是國際影展的常客,《那時候,那些人》可望在海外影展放映.

*大概本月底回到韩国,差不多这个片子一月份就要开始宣传,试映会什么的了.

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发表于 2004-12-24 08:43 | 显示全部楼层

2005 People at That Time (韓石圭﹐白允植)---转自<韩流风>

Movie About President Park Stirs Up Controversy



By Kim Tae-jong
Staff Reporter
A feature film about the assassination of President Park Chung-hee in the late 1970s is currently in post-production and is expected to be released in February.

KangJeGyu & Myung Film began shooting ““Kuddae Ku Saramdul (People at That Time)\"\" in September. The film, based on Park\"s assassination on Oct. 26, 1979, is expected to stir up controversy prior to its release as there are numerous conflicting opinions about what actually happened.

Though filming was completed last month, KangJeGyu & Myung Film has divulged little about the movie to the public out of concern that some politicians and people involved in the 1979 incident may get offended and demand that the movie not be made.

With a production cost of 6 billion won, the film is directed by Lim Sang-soo of ““Paramnan Kajok (A Good Lawyer\"s Wife)\"\" and recounts the day of the president\"s death, but avoids using real names. Actor Baek Yoon-sik from ““Pomchoeui Chaegusong (The Big Swindle)\"\" plays a character based on Kim Jae-kyu, then chief of the Korea Central Intelligence Agency (KCIA) who shot and killed President Park and Kim\"s political rival, Cha Ji-chul, during a party at the president\"s ““safe house,\"\" an unregistered location for the late president managed by KCIA, in Kungjung-dong, Seoul.

Kim was convicted on May 20, 1980, and was executed four days later by the military government headed by President Chun Doo-whan, who rose to power through a military coup in 1979.

The film also stars Han Suk-kyu as a KCIA official and Kim\"s right-hand man and Song Jae-ho as the president. Kim Yoon-ah, lead singer of the rock band Jaurim, plays a character based on Sim Soo-bong, a singer who was at the scene of the assassination.

Although the assassination triggered a turning point in modern Korean history, politicians have been reluctant to discuss it. Virtually no historic evaluation has been made concerning the former KCIA chief, which has resulted in numerous conspiracy theories regarding the assassination and his execution.

Several civic groups have argued that Kim should be regarded as a hero since he helped the democratization of the country by ending Park\"s 18-year-long military dictatorship. A larger number of people, especially conservatives who supported the late president\"s policies, disagree and call Kim nothing more than a murderer.



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挖O,这张轰有感觉

lwang,这个已经拍完了吗?明年1月上映?
速度爆快,金基德拍摄电影也素2,3个星期搞定
05年的韩国电影真素竞争激烈哦,已经知道在拍摄的就酱多
《红字》以后,不知道为啥好象对老韩有了一个定型的误区,大概给我印象过于深刻了
等正式版本出来,一定好好再看次,回味次
这次的《那时代,那人》素和政治有关吧
老宋的《孝子洞理发师》感觉只能算一般

说到智泰和老宋的《南极日记》从去年就开始拍摄了,好象看到公演是05年3月
可是最近一点消息也米
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