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【2006KBS】【Goodbye Solo】【已播毕】【7人协奏】理解面前,我何尝不是solo……

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 楼主| 发表于 2006-6-16 00:43 | 显示全部楼层
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Superb review, X. Really got to the heart of the drama while placing it in context. Thank you.


» Posted by Peter Martin at May 28, 2006 12:57 PM

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I love this drama so much but I rarely posted in its soompi thread because it was always hard to find words to describe the feelings it evoked in me. Thank you for your wonderful review, X--I read it with a lump in my throat, nodding all the while.

» Posted by melusine at May 28, 2006 01:18 PM

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BTW, one thing I forgot to add, Noh is going to make a short Drama on MBC early next year, then work again with Pyo Min-Soo in a couple of years. This time she said she wants to complete the entire script even before filming.

Next thing you know she'll cast Hyun Young and leave my TV intact (without bricks inside, that is). If anyone can do that, that's Noh Hee-Kyung.


» Posted by X at May 28, 2006 03:16 PM

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^Hyun Young in a non-bimbo role? Err... okay. *to be filed under Who Knows?* Thanks for the heads-up, will definitely be looking forward to Noh's future dramas ("Goodbye Solo" has made me a gushing fangirl of her writing). Btw, X, I've already read your review on "More Beautiful Than Flowers" and wanted to ask what your thoughts are on "Did We Really Love?"... Is it any good?

» Posted by melusine at May 28, 2006 04:46 PM

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It's my least favourite of her works, but it's still good. Kim Hye-Soo was still in over-the-top mode, and Bae Yong-Joon.... eh. I just can't digest the guy.

» Posted by X at May 28, 2006 05:14 PM

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Hope the only thing they stole from Elizbethtown was the poster.....

» Posted by Donwoo2 at May 28, 2006 06:41 PM

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...because that film invented the trend of two people sitting on a sofa for a poster.

» Posted by X at May 28, 2006 07:41 PM

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Thank you for posting a good review on "Goodbye Solo"
At first time, when I watched title of this series I was wondering what drama was, but I did not spend a time to recognize why Noh Hae-Kyung called it because we are connected with each other and we are not alone and cannot live alone. Most of all, the meaning of and the significance of reconciliation and forgiveness in our life that I found, and we shall overcome the life's darkness through interdependence each other that I re-acknowledged.

For reason of that, however, I would recomand this series strongly.


» Posted by mokshada at May 28, 2006 08:51 PM

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great review, X!! i love the opening about loneliness. very beautifully written. you're a good writer!
this is one of the best show i've seen. i actually cried when at the end, grandma mi-young spoke those two words after looking at the pictures. very poignant and touching!


» Posted by tu at May 29, 2006 09:18 PM

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"Thank you for your wonderful review, X--I read it with a lump in my throat, nodding all the while." - melusine

Me too except that unlike melusine, it wasn't the lump in my throat but a strange tightening of the blood vessels in my head. I even had tears at the end of the review because of what X said about trusting that the characters would "do well, whatever they choose, wherever that road leads them to."

Just like Ruler of Your Own World, I love Goodbye Solo for making me laugh and cry, for blowing me away with its magnificent lines, for giving me characters I could care deeply about, and for just lifting my spirits. Min-ho and Soo-hee reminded me of ROYOW's Boksu and Jung-kyung; their honesty with each other was so refreshing. But my favorite couple by far was Ho-chul and Mi-ri. How I adore this couple - the way they fight and love, the things they say, their connectedness... I've never seen a couple in K-drama who belonged more together than this quirky pair. I can still hum that song that Mi-ri was singing at the top of her lungs in the car with Ho-chul on their way to the beach. I miss Mi-ri.


» Posted by thunderbolt at May 31, 2006 12:55 AM

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This is my first comment, so I'd like to thank you for your dedication to K-Drama Hub/News... most of your comments, I understand and agree with them...

Since you've given a lot of positives on this drama I'd like to share my peeves, too. Little things that produce less than the desired effect in me.

I like the whole series and how the build-up of the stories are setup piece by piece with each person's background story being introduced one by one. While not entirely unique, it has a very nice flow of coming into the story.

What I don't like is the middle to end part, as the story becomes convoluted and draggy. Only the divorced unnie is the one with a purpose and she basically moves the story along in a little unnatural way.

I am particularly disappointed with some of the happy conclusions in the story, as they are simply too happy - considering the whole somberness experience in the drama. Especially Minho's mom and dad possibility of getting back together again... It's kind of hard to imagine the hate and misunderstanding that had been built up for 20-30 years could be resolved just like that. Other things that's kind of hard to take is, Miri's gangster turning into lovey-dovey laundry maker... Grandma's suddenly talking again... after 20-something years because of just looking at pictures...

I feel if it is only 10-12 episodes long, then the pace might be better. That way some events would happen faster, with more purpose. There are also way too many flashbacks in the later episodes.

So, while the introduction is great, I feel the finishing part is the weak link...
Some of the things went exactly right, like Miri's gangster's abdication to Shimsik was touching, Miri's father continued opposition to the gangster...

I'll stop.


» Posted by fastheart at June 1, 2006 04:01 AM

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SPOILERS folks.
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Why are you seeing them as conclusion? They're not. They're simply new openings or developments. Min-Ho and Soo-Hee could break up, and just because Ho-Cheol is 'lovey-dovey' doesn't mean he killed off all the 성질 and they're suddenly going to stop fighting. It's quite realistic making a living 'just like that' after quitting the 'underworld'.

할머니 speaking again because of the photos is actually the way to go. As I said, she's not going to speak again as she used to all of a sudden. She just said a word. That was the rock that broke the glass, the rest, we don't know.

The two divorcees-to-be getting together again? Why, did they promise everything would go back to normal? Nope. They're just opening the door to each other for once... you never see her going in jumping around and saying I love you this and that. It's just an opening. And the fact it comes at the end just means they finally woke up. Wake up calls might take years, but the decision is made in a second. The last.

Every single character has a purpose. It's just that Noh doesn't hit you in the head with it. Most of those 'purposes' deal with getting rid of the weight of the characters' past and trying to start anew.

Noh said she loved the characters too much not to close on a happy note, but the story could go on for a 100 Episodes. I feel the pacing is just right, upping the urgency would only hurt the mood, and I'm no big fan of the Dorama model (10-11 eps).

I don't remember who said it (and he said it about films), but this Drama never ends. It just stops.


» Posted by X at June 1, 2006 04:35 AM

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Thanks for the response.

I see the ending as part of the life journey too, so that's why I don't necessarily want all the characters to be happy, or having a breakthrough. The key is like what you said, Noh's desire for a happy note to stop the story...


» Posted by fastheart at June 1, 2006 01:06 PM

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 楼主| 发表于 2006-6-16 00:52 | 显示全部楼层
X的剧评还没仔细看~到是看到留言里的:

“BTW, one thing I forgot to add, Noh is going to make a short Drama on MBC early next year, then work again with Pyo Min-Soo in a couple of years. This time she said she wants to complete the entire script even before filming.

Next thing you know she'll cast Hyun Young and leave my TV intact (without bricks inside, that is). If anyone can do that, that's Noh Hee-Kyung.”

说卢编剧明年初会回MBC写部短剧,跟老搭档表民洙导演再度合作,并且这次剧本会在拍摄前100%完稿。演员选玄英||@@不知是真是假啊~

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原帖由 途汀 于 2006-6-16 00:26 发表
谢谢shl888888带来的图~是不是把图的地址连在一起发的?有些张都断开了~

晕~~~这些图我砌了半天。其实原文中每张图基本上都是由4张小图组成的,如果把本窗口放到最大(我用的是17寸屏),是能看到完整的图片的。Anyway, 我试着再编辑一下......

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原帖由 途汀 于 2006-6-16 00:52 发表
X的剧评还没仔细看~到是看到留言里的:

说卢编剧明年初会回MBC写部短剧,跟老搭档表民洙导演再度合作,并且这次剧本会在拍摄前100%完稿。演员选玄英||@@不知是真是假啊~
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我也得仔细看看这篇剧评~

对了,玄英||@@是谁

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我喜欢的剧评节选部分:

~굿바이 솔로 (Goodbye Solo). Like Bad Family, it doesn't necessarily deal with a blood-related family, but a 마음의 가족, a 'family' but out of emotional connection and mutual understanding, often regardless of blood ties.

~No, this show is not about finding an alternative to that 'Solo' lifestyle in a romantic sense. We're not dealing with characters looking for a soulmate, at least not all of them. What they're trying to escape from is loneliness. Find someone who understands them, someone they can trust, rely on, that is what they want.

Noh doesn't give us a beginning and an end. She shows the journey, or at least part of it.

I love all the characters in Goodbye Solo because they're full of 성질 (temper), they're often miserable in dealing with others, they make mistakes, they hurt people and then some. But then, just like in real life, they have the power to forget that, forgive that, laugh the day after.

I can trust they'll do well, whatever they choose, wherever that road leads them to. Because they not only said goodbye to us, but also to that inner disease, that unwelcome companion that walked with them for years. Goodbye. Solo.

关于7位主人公:
Characters living solo, alone, because of the pain of their past.
(秀希)Soo-Hee can't deal anymore with her mother changing partner every few months, even though she knows why she's doing all that;
(美莉)Mi-Ri essentially separated from her family to stay with the man she loves,
(浩哲)Ho-Cheol, who in turn continues to blame himself for his past, releasing his tension through his life as a third rate gangster;
(志安)Ji-An seems to be doing fine on the outside, but his castle of lies is about to fall, not because of other people trying to reveal his past, a past which could ruin his present, but because he himself can't escape the burden of all those white lies.
(美英奶奶)'Grandma' Mi-Young hasn't spoken a single word in decades, hiding all the pain inside her, taking insults and everything else like a passing breeze;
(敏浩)Min-Ho is separated from his family because of more secrets, and
(英淑)Young-Sook is dealing with the repercussions all her lies created. They're all people in pain, suffering day by day, sometimes laughing in the face of tragedy, sometimes crushing under the weight of all that pressure.

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 楼主| 发表于 2006-6-17 16:40 | 显示全部楼层
这位Mr.X对韩国电视剧似乎有很深入的了解,特别是对那些作家都很熟悉似的~

很赞同这几句:

It's not like the usual injection of plot devices other Dramas resort to, getting rid of the obstacles in the way, and then enjoying their perfect resolution. It's not like that because, well, life just isn't like that.

Unlike other Dramas, Noh doesn't give us a beginning and an end. She shows the journey, or at least part of it.

This is not escapist entertainment, it's not fluffy crap with pretty faces trying to fill time until they'll say 'I love you... foh ebahhhh". This is a bittersweet look at how people find a 'home away from home', an emotional connection regardless if that comes from family ties or not. And it's quite exceptional at that. I love all the characters in Goodbye Solo because they're full of 성질 (temper), they're often miserable in dealing with others, they make mistakes, they hurt people and then some. But then, just like in real life, they have the power to forget that, forgive that, laugh the day after.

还有他回复别人留言时说的:

This Drama never ends. It just stops.

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 楼主| 发表于 2006-6-17 17:01 | 显示全部楼层
6月15号卢编剧出席“东亚广播作家会议”(中国大陆、日本、中国台湾、香港四地的70多位作家出席),用她的《生活如歌》(KBS创社特辑剧,共两集)做专题讨论。会上她说韩国电视剧的强点是,重视人对家人态度的描写。说近来韩国作家们的重点不是MINI剧。


                               
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 楼主| 发表于 2006-6-20 21:21 | 显示全部楼层
这个一定要转过来!上一次看到它是3个多月前的3月1号。

转自:韩朝风 感谢longchenga斑竹热情分享!longchenga大大,太感谢您了!

《Goodbye Solo》片头(8.74MB 51秒)


http://kr.img.dc.yahoo.com/b13/data/dci_etc/46/1148806199_2.wmv

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发表于 2006-6-25 19:48 | 显示全部楼层
让人不知不觉投入的一部戏
现实生活中的亲情,友情,爱情
如此真实的描述
看着看着眼睛湿湿的

理解不等于认同
自己的人生
自己负责

喜欢千正明、尹素怡的演绎
也对李在龙、金敏喜另眼相看

看完ONLY YOU看完《署童谣》后
终于有一部戏可以让我如此投入

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发表于 2006-6-26 12:23 | 显示全部楼层
大家好!我滚回来啦~
把SOLO拷给宿舍的姐妹们,大家都觉得很好看哦~
途汀亲换了签名,看到这张就很想笑,想起敏浩可怜巴巴的问秀希,一起睡...也可以么?真是小可爱~
片头我好象是第1次看到,有味道~谢谢longchenga大大!^^*

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发表于 2006-6-27 19:49 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 芜歆 于 2006-6-26 12:23 发表
大家好!我滚回来啦~
把SOLO拷给宿舍的姐妹们,大家都觉得很好看哦~
途汀亲换了签名,看到这张就很想笑,想起敏浩可怜巴巴的问秀希,一起睡...也可以么?真是小可爱~
片头我好象是第1次看到,有味道~谢谢longchenga大 ...

芜歆亲回来啦,韩语学得怎么样了;)

戏播完都有两个月了,偶尔回来看看这帖子,见到老朋友的方块字,会心一笑,心亦足矣。

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发表于 2006-6-27 23:01 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 shl888888 于 2006-6-27 19:49 发表

芜歆亲回来啦,韩语学得怎么样了;)

戏播完都有两个月了,偶尔回来看看这帖子,见到老朋友的方块字,会心一笑,心亦足矣。

to shl888888:
见到你好亲切啊~高兴!
刚搞定答辩...还没来得及报韩语班~
原本计划暑假不打工,7月专心学韩语,然后8月去旅游.可是money实在不够了,所以决定暂缓韩语学习计划,7月专心打工,把旅行费和学费挣出来,下学期周末再学韩语啦~
有点郁闷...不过韩语和德语是我下定决心一定要学的!Fighting!~^^*

戏都播完2个月了?居然这么久了...可能是最近宿舍姐妹都在看这戏的缘故,所以我还沉浸在solo中,这期间虽然也看了别的戏,但总感觉投入不进去...我的世界还是solo的...哈哈~

这部戏冲击了我的爱情观,我是保守派,之前觉得爱情是永恒而唯一的,觉得恋爱要以婚姻为前提,才是负责的(可怕不?)...但是因为solo,有了微微动摇,重要的是形式还是心?诺言怎能轻易承诺?把握现在vs寄希望于永恒?...并不是刻意抬高这戏,而是这戏确实引发了我的思考,并悄悄影响了我的处世态度~

忍不住再次感谢编剧!感谢热线的翻译!^^*~7月工作要是不忙,我会经常来这里的.

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发表于 2006-6-29 01:20 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 芜歆 于 2006-6-27 23:01 发表

to shl888888:
见到你好亲切啊~高兴!
刚搞定答辩...还没来得及报韩语班~
原本计划暑假不打工,7月专心学韩语,然后8月去旅游.可是money实在不够了,所以决定暂缓韩语学习计划,7月专心打工,把旅行费和学费挣出来 ...

我也买了一堆韩语书,决心在家自学就是不知有没有恒心学下去~

我关注Solo最多的倒不是因为爱情观,其中给我最大的感触是每个人过去现在的痛以及如何在亲情、友情抚慰鼓励下自我疗伤的过程。至于爱情,如果能有幸福的婚姻做结局,才是完美的。我还是偏爱大团圆结局。

现在我最大的改变是对老爸老妈好了很多,经常打打电话,问个好~好羡慕芜歆,途汀,大概还没进入残酷的工作中吧。
Fighting

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