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【2010KBS】【推奴】【张赫 李多海】追与被追迷乱了方向,恩怨情仇留下点希望

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“听説”,原来給了话説要去的,後来知道了得奖名单,就不去了。。

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real last scene after epi 24 (tv version) :
24集後电视播映时最後的视频片段
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U ... ure=player_embedded

subtitle: special drama
chuno
thanks for watching chuno
韩文字幕:特别戏剧
推奴
謝謝收看推奴

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I do however believe that TH was originally meant to perish gloriously alongside DG. The producers themselves said so, that it was a direction determined as far back as the series opener. My uneducated guess is, at the eleventh hour, perhaps to spare hapless viewers some of the proverbial "hope", the script was revised. TH’s survival (as well as Seol-Hwa’s) must be the “small modification” that the production team was hinting at.

原来的剧本/企划里,大吉,太河和雪花是会挂掉的,後来因“顺应民意”給出希望,制作团队修改了剧本。。。


Meanwhile speaking at the closing party, PD Kwak (who is keenly aware that he has been nicknamed “Massacre PD” and “The Inhuman PD”) revealed that writer Cheon originally proposed a 12 or 16-parter. Wrung from the back-breaking experience of his last project (Conspiracy in the Court, only 8 episodes), however, PD Kwak insisted on expanding it to a 24-parter to better deliver the story.
Following criticisms that the storyline dragged in the middle, PD Kwak asked writer Cheon if he had any regrets. He felt pretty bad when the latter apparently replied “it should’ve been within 20 eps”.
Nonetheless, writer Cheon reportedly stated in an interview elsewhere that he very much would like to work with PD Kwak again -- on, oh, another five projects or so. The director's response to this? Yes, sure, maybe three more or so.

在庆功宴上,郭PD透漏,编剧问过他,想把推奴寫成12或16集就好,但郭PD坚持要拉成24集。後来被批评剧情中段拖戏时,郭PD问千编剧他後悔嗎,千编剧回説,应该寫成20集以内的。对此,郭PD觉得很難过。


On another note, “Chuno Anthology Nak-In (Stigma)/추노 앤솔로지 낙인”, kind of like the official illustrated drama companion, has been published under the editorial supervision of KBS.
This graphic story book comprises of 8 shorts which try to delve deeper into the backstories of key Chuno characters: Tae-Ha’s eight years in Shenyang/Qing, Dae-Gil’s history with Cheon Ji-Ho, Hwang Cheol-Ung’s true inner thoughts, etc.
What’s interesting is that all the stories were written and drawn by female manga authors (ten of them). Priced at 10,800 KRW (or US$9.4), the book is available for order from several online retailers.

                               
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在KBS监制下,推奴推出了“推奴 作品集 烙印”画册。
裏面有8个短篇故事,深入介绍主要人物的背景:太河在清朝/沈阳的8年,大吉和千至豪的故事,黄铁雄的内心世界,等等。
这本画册是由10个女漫画家撰写和绘画的,卖价10,800韩元(9.4美金—好便宜。。),网上可以买到。

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原帖由 laura1997 于 2010-3-26 23:36 发表

“听説”,原来給了话説要去的,後来知道了得奖名单,就不去了。。

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岂不是又是被先知道了~~嘎嘎。。
那个奖,很重要的吗~~

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“听説”,原来給了话説要去的,後来知道了得奖名单,就不去了。。
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我要是能早“听说”这消息也好咧。。
大秉,金南珠,高贤贞~~
在赫出道的时候,这仨位前辈早已成名~
输的不惨~~

我郁闷的只是这家伙居然连红地毯也不去走走
老实说,这个“听说”不符合他的性格~
退役后的M家年底猪肉奖的笑让我记忆犹新
参照一下早上那个名单,缺席的人多着是~
至于赫做不出来一早给话要去,可是听说没奖项不去


推奴的导演没有拿到新人导演奖,有点可惜,前十集真的很棒!
推奴的编剧拿到最佳编剧奖,恭喜了!我喜欢这编剧的为人!!

原帖由 bgsnbgsn 于 2010-3-26 23:46 发表

岂不是又是被先知道了~~嘎嘎。。
那个奖,很重要的吗~~

这种奖项。。都是事先得知的。。
所以说,基本上去的明星(除了新生代)都有奖可拿~~~
就像刚刚,南珠JJ拿到最佳女主,后面观众都得知会有一个大赏给高JJ
今天演技奖项没激情,都是预想到的~~

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嘻嘻,反正我也没看~,好多不认识的。。
这楼里,今天完全冷清,感觉~~!呵呵,可能是被结局郁闷的人一大票啊!~
唉,还在加班中,准备回去了,明天还一大堆的事情,周末估计都不能看电视了~

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看到赫吧贴的日本杂志照片,
那一集推奴采访专辑占主要版面,我在书店翻了翻
准备买来好好看看,照片中间长长的采访文章,
很多未公开的拍摄幕后话。
张赫两次落马,即兴演出更改台词等等。

还有吴智昊和李多海的详细采访等等。

张赫去了中国,下个月日本播放的宣传活动
应该来不了了,目前知道有吴智昊参加,正好那期间有个
他的生日影迷会。


回复laura亲  

韩国的书价很便宜,但寄给我们邮费是书价的几倍。。。

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内,米国这也常是运费比买的东西贵,所以厂商常常会附赠礼物。。。

给w亲,我把一些饭对张赫接拍爱上女主播改编剧的想法重点po上来。。。

1 Celest - Mar 25, 2010 at 8:45 pm
All About Eve is one of my favorite dramas that I saw many years ago. I dunno if I’d watch the remake though. Jang Hyuk is fine and all but Jang Dong Gun owns that role. Just saying. A perfect knight in shining armor. But who knows? Jang Hyuk has proved himself to be a capable actor so this might turn out okay after all.
爱上女主播是我多年前看的最喜欢的剧之一。我不知道会不会看改编剧。张赫是都很不錯,但张东健演活了那个角色。这么説吧,像是个穿着闪烁盔甲的完美骑士。但是谁知道呢?张赫演技很好,也许最後的结果会还好。

5 jacq - Mar 25, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Aww, All About Ave was what got me hooked on korean drama years ago and it remained one of my very top favorite dramas of all time. And JDG, he was just perfect in his role. I was soooo in love with him (still do). I’m sure JH will do fine considering how magnificent he was in Chuno. I don’t know Zhu Dan but I do like Cheryl Yang. She will be good as the villainese I’m looking forwad to this no doubt!
以他在推奴里的表现,我确定张赫会作的很好。我不知道朱丹,但是我很喜欢杨瑾华。。。毫无疑虑,我很期待这部剧!

7 hjkomo - Mar 25, 2010 at 9:09 pm
Let’s hope they rework it to be better than the Korean version. Totally old-school.
@ nycgrl
Yesss!!! Someone else who didn’t like that drama.  I thought it was meh & bleh…even given the time frame in which it was produced.
希望他们(中国方面)把剧情改的比韩版的更好。韩版的好老套。(此人是很热心的韩饭,常常在soompi看到她)

12 djes - Mar 25, 2010 at 9:18 pm
Even though I like Jang Hyuk, I don’t think he fits the role as romantic prince charming like Jang Dong Gun. And I swear I’m not being biased!  
Never heard about Zhu Dan, but Cheryl Yang is quite popular, and I can see her taking the villain role.
I agree with you, Javabeans, the story is kinda old, will it work?
虽然我喜欢张赫,但我认为他不像张东健,他不適合演这种浪漫动人的王子角色。而且我发誓我没有偏见!从没听过朱丹,但杨瑾华很受欢迎,我能了解她为什么会接下这个坏女人的角色。我跟javabeans的想法一样,这个故事有点老掉牙,会成功嗎?

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总共有50余个留言评论,大致上来説,中国的粉对合拍剧信心缺缺,韩饭则多担心剧本过于老套。有些人认为张东健珠玉在前,张赫很難超越。还有些人认为张赫的形像根本不符“学长”的角色。很多人留言説朱丹是谁?唯一受到大家一致称赞的是杨瑾华。有个菲律宾的粉留言説,菲律宾作过爱上女主播的改编剧,结果还不錯。

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献給不朽的大吉。。。。

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All film and drama awards in Korea are "rigged," (maybe the Busan Film Critics' one could be the exception, but I mostly mean those broadcast on TV and endorsed by major newspapers) in the sense that their committees are pretty much ruled by management agencies and entertainment lobbies. In the case of station-specific shows (KBS Drama Awards et al), they award rating hits for two reasons (1. masturbatory pats in the back for making them money 2. using these meaningless, virtual accolades to pump up prices when you deal with foreign broadcasters, particularly Japan), and as for movie ones or the Baeksang, they're ruled by the 나눠먹기 mantra, with a few token picks of the majors sharing most prizes.

I mean... Yoon Je-Gyun won for Haeundae. Any respectable award jury wouldn't even fart in his direction, in a year when Bong Joon-Ho and Park Chan-Wook had commercially successful/critically lauded releases, just to mention a couple of cases. But of course Haeundae and Take Off are Chungmuro's new flagbearers of the half-assed commercial renaissance (to the tune of "movies = hyundai sonatas") instigated by the rat fascists on top of the blue hill, so they share top prizes - and as far as TV goes, the political balancing from the management big three and the three broadcasters made sure recognition went to those who play the game safe, by the rules and who help maintain status quo. Something like Slave Hunters, despite the ratings, is everything but status quo. So they mostly ignore it, awarding the least deserving of all its nominations (the script) because Cheon is a proven Chungmuro draw - it's like throwing a bone to the minions, since only the top prizes get press. And Iris gets the nod as well, because of Lee's international appeal (vastly superior to Jang Hyuk's, although his performance in Iris was hardly memorable), and Taewon Entertainment's clout. No "talent" involved here, not now or back in the 60s and 70s. It's just behind the scenes political maneuvering.
It's not really a "conspiracy." It's how this business works (and it's not like it's any different in the US or Japan, really). Awards are meaningless, and it's always been the case, no matter whether Yoo Dong-Geun or Song Seung-Heon got the big prize. What you hope is that solid critical discourse will put the spotlight on more deserving shows... but then again, since the death of Dramatique critical discourse about TV dramas in Korea has been limited to a couple of smart bloggers and posters on DC, because webzines like TVian and 10Asia are a disgrace, corporate shills pretending to be critics, hanging from the mainstream's lips to make a buck, while at the same time prostituting their profession's true calling.

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权威新闻撰稿人/编辑 MisterX 罕见的在soompi上説张赫这次没得男主角奖早就是既定事实,这个大奖是後面三大经济公司和三大电视台等等政治运作後的结果,跟天分才能无关,是給遵守游戏规则等的人。給千作家的编剧小奖就是丢根安慰的骨头,因为媒体只看大奖。

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原帖由 bgsnbgsn 于 2010-3-26 23:53 发表
嘻嘻,反正我也没看~,好多不认识的。。
这楼里,今天完全冷清,感觉~~!呵呵,可能是被结局郁闷的人一大票啊!~
唉,还在加班中,准备回去了,明天还一大堆的事情,周末估计都不能看电视了~


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對這部劇不是鬱悶  是回味和沉澱  很多片段常在腦海跳出
鬱悶的反而是到貼吧看到各位罵聲一片....  有話也說不出來了.....   自己回味就好了 (原諒我直說)

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权威新闻撰稿人/编辑 MisterX 罕见的在soompi上説张赫这次没得男主角奖早就是既定事实,这个大奖是後面三大经济公司和三大电视台等等政治运作後的结果,跟天分才能无关,是給遵守游戏规则等的人。給千作家的编剧小奖就是丢根安慰的骨头,因为媒体只看大奖。
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同意 iris的象徵意義明顯多很多

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结局是这个样子,唉,太悲惨了。大吉太不值了

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原帖由 soya 于 2010-3-25 17:12 发表

同感,此剧前十集堪称经典,扣人心弦,让人欲罢不能。至于后面我都怀疑还是一个编剧吗?都这样还能维持这样的收视率足见前十集打下的观众基础有多么厚实!

说到我心坎儿里了

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原帖由 laura1997 于 2010-3-26 23:36 发表

“听説”,原来給了话説要去的,後来知道了得奖名单,就不去了。。

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这剧如果只有16集甚至20集都要比现在好~
其实这编剧不错,真的不错,
反正回头我还是会继续关注编剧的新作品~
恭喜编剧昨天百想获得的最佳编剧奖~

雪花啊,唉,如果死了,这结局对我来说就完美了
顺应民意,啊啊啊,太和不死,雪花不死,都是为了惠媛吧。

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原帖由 忍者心动 于 2010-3-26 11:26 发表


我被两部水木剧的痴男“同步”杀死了!


这里的男银说:一定要活下去,你活下去,我也能活!(问题是他看着爱人走了,其实是不想活了视死如归!)


那边《妇产科》滴男银说:你好好的, 我就不会喝酒了

呵呵,是啊是啊
俺也让这两白痴男折腾滴神经错乱了
大吉就不说了 王医生也是

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[凤凰天使TsKs制作@TsKscn.com][推奴][HDTV-RMVB_韩语中字][第023集].torrent
http://www.uushare.com/user/wwhyuk/file/2789499

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等得好辛苦啊!~
等最后一集出来了再一块看。。。

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