【资料】林常树和韩石圭的新电影《那时代，那人》

lwang

Baik Yoon-shik plays a KCIA director out to assassinate the nation’s leader in “The President’s Last Bang.”  

By Joon Soh
Culture Editor



Whether intended or not, the new local film ``The President's Last Bang'' has certainly created a sensation in the past month. Based on the 1979 assassination of President Park Chung-hee, the news of the film's production was met with opposition from conservatives and from Park Ji-man, the president's son, taking legal action to prevent its release.

The film now finds itself at the heart of a debate on freedom of speech, with the cultural world banding together to voice their anger over the court's decision to disallow the use of documentary footage in the otherwise fictional film.

Given the political controversy that ``Last Bang'' has stirred up, it will be difficult to separate the movie from the politics. And the film doesn't make it any easier, mixing fiction and reality and constantly flipping back and forth between thriller and black comedy.

As the film's sardonic _ and unfortunately sexual _ English title shows, ``Last Bang'' doesn't quite take its subject seriously. There's a self-conscious theatricality to the film as it recreates a private party held at the president's secret quarters on Oct. 26, 1979, where Kim Jae-kyu, then chief of the Korea Central Intelligence Agency (KCIA) shot and killed the president.

The party itself, held by the president (Song Jae-ho) and attended by five guests, including KCIA director Kim (Baik Yoon-shik) and the president's security chief Cha (Jeong Won-joong), is presented as if taking place on a stage. The portrayal of the president is harmless, if somewhat disrespectful. He is a man who enjoys drinking and speaking in Japanese, and has a penchant for the companionship of young women, which on that day included a ditzy young woman (Cho Eun-ji) and a popular singer (Kim Yoon-ah).

But the film makes the president a relatively minor character, one of many involved on that day. ``Last Bang'' gives equal weight and attention to such characters as the KCIA agents who plot the assassination, the silent but ever-present butler, the cooks and the caretakers of the quarters.

At the heart of the film is Baik's portrayal of the KCIA director. Wearing an enigmatic smile throughout, it's hard to tell what the character is thinking, and whether he should be considered a hero or a villain. The same goes for his cohorts, who include the tough-talking KCIA chief Ju, played with the right amount of bitterness and humor by Han Suk-gyu.

In fact, it's difficult to tell what is the point of the story, as the film refuses to give a lot of historical context to the characters' actions. (And with the removal of documentary footages there's now even less explanation.)

Instead, Lim Sang-soo, the film's director, curiously chooses to add a large element of farce, creating a certain distance from the reality of the event. And viewers familiar with Lim's previous work, which included last year's ``A Good Lawyer's Wife,'' an interesting meditation on infidelity, will be surprised by the mean streak in ``Last Bang'' that's equal to ``Old Boy'' director Park Chan-wook's theater of cruelty.

With its twisted humor and grim tension, the film is engaging throughout, though the pleasure at times borders on voyeurism. But those looking to learn about what really happened at Park's last moments may want to look elsewhere.


The President's Last Bang
(Kuddae Kusaramdul)
Stars: Baik Yoon-shik, Han Sukgyu and Song Jae-ho

Director: Lim Sang-soo

Length: 1 hour 42 minutes

Rating: 15 and over

Language: Korean



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lwang

那时那些人》全国首映 网上好坏意见参半  

观众在上映《那时那些人》的首尔影院前排成了长队。

     影片《那时那些人》被删掉三处纪事场面后，3日在全国180多家影院首映。除了大邱有10多名市民举行示威反对首映外，大部分影院基本平静。

    汉城阳川区木洞的CGV影院前来观看的大多数为20~40岁的人，也有不少20多岁的女影迷，引起了关注。

    监制该片的MK电影公司组长李允正表示满意说，因为是平日首映，估计观众对影片的反应为时尚早，但虽然不能说票房火爆，还算达到了预期的目标。

    该片首映后，主页(www.peopke2005.co.kr) 上有肯定的评论，也有完全否定的评论，有的甚至说“看了三流影片”。有人说影片”不以幻想回避时代的阴暗面，多少揭示了历史的真实，这一点应予以肯定”，有人则说“我没有生活在那个年代不能表示认同，但在变化无常的情景中展示了一些惊险，也令人揪心。”

    当天，“电影配额文化连带”等三家市民团体在汉城新闻中心举行记者会谴责说：“司法部有关《那时那些人》的判决是限制题材选择自由和表现自由的倒退的政治判断。”

《数码朝鲜》

*大邱是朴的老家吗?或者得到过朴的什么好处?抗议,反对首映?
网上的意见相当有意思,肯定的意见还是占多数,认为是非常好的电影,但是非常有意思的是,否定的意见也是相当极端,认为这电影一钱不值,就象DARCY说的,有人认为这电影是'垃圾",有人认为是一个里程碑.不过,ANYWAY,我对这个电影充满信心.
首映的票房卖得还很不错啊.

lwang

*这个争论已经超过了电影本身,可以说到了一个政治的层面上了,请注意这个TROY,从他的文字可以看出他是一个极右翼保守的韩国人,极力维护他们的前总统,所以把这个电影批得一钱不值(已经超出了艺术本身的争论了),不过显然争论是一边倒的,他的话受到了其他所有人的纷纷谴责.(非常有意思的争论)

Timigah:  
In case anyone hasn't noticed yet, Darcy updated the site's news page to give a somewhat brief review of the new Im Sang-soo movie - http://www.koreanfilm.org/new.html

I just gotta say one thing: Damn, Darcy, you really know how to make a guy get impatient to see the movies you love! I couldn't wait to see this film when I saw the trailers before, but now I really can't wait to see this film.... (I know it's not even February yet, but do you think this is best-film-of-the-year material?)

P.S. Too bad that Public Enemy 2 didn't live up to your expectations, but I'm still looking forward to seeing that one too.
Darcy:

I always go through these spells of regret after pushing a film this hard, worried about over-hyping it so that people expect too much. And I feel sorry for people not living in Korea, who will have to wait for an eternity before the movie finally reaches them. But I do think that people who liked A GOOD LAWYER'S WIFE will be equally pleased with this one, even though it's a very different animal. And I'm guessing it will improve with multiple viewings.

I wouldn't dare to nominate it as best film of the year yet, especially when we still have films by Park Chan-wook, Hong Sang-soo, Hur Jin-ho, Lee Myung-se, Kim Jee-woon, (and yes, I suppose Kim Ki-duk) coming up, but I do think it was better than any film that was released in theaters last year, with the possible exception of REPATRIATION.

I'm with Q -- if this movie becomes a major box-office hit, it will be one of the best things to happen to the film industry in quite a while.


Matt74:

As for 'President's Last Bang', I was pretty excited when i first heard about it - and I knew very well it would cause a ruckus, so to speak. I'm curious about the excised (only for now, hopefully) footage - does it show footage of the Busan Masan (Bu-Ma) uprising that took place a week before PCH's death? Just curious.
I've seen the posters, and whoever it is who plays Kim Jae-gyu looks just like him.

Apocalyptic One:
I am just appalled at how the government has its hand in editing a film. Being from the US (where you can openly ridicule any prominent figure), it really is just chimerical.
Troy:
It is not the government.
President Park's only son, Park Ji Mann filed a lawsuit against the
film for the slander of his father. (Wouldn't you sue someone if they are making the movie and describing your father is total jerk?)

Then, Court decided that 3 documentary scenes must be cut out since
it would conflict with fictionized story. Of course, there are repulsion on the verdict. This is the answer for movie's intention.

They are saying it is fiction and at same time, Director wants people to believe(or confused with) it is true story. Bring down the generally respected man and his descendant for the purpose of political ambition.
  Haisan:
Courts deciding on art is bunk. Period. If there is slander (by whatever odd local standards), award damages and an injunction. If not, let it play. But the judiciary playing censor is pretty lame.

And, at the risk of digressing off my main point, what makes you think Im was trying to bring Park and his family down for political ambition? I've talked to Im and I have not heard him say anything of the sort. Im said what he wanted to say... if someone disagrees, let him make his own movie. Truth comes from openness and discussion, not oppression and authority.
Troy:
"President's Last Bang" is the wrost movie I ever seen.

Indeed, It is nothing more than dirty political propaganda for current
government and lefties. This is just adulation, conspiracy and slander.

Depiction of President Park in the movie was done without any legal proof, research or inquiry. His life style and the moment of assassination which described in this particular movie is total lie.

In addition, It does not clearly says everyting is fiction.
If this movie is released all over the world, will everyone think
movie is all fiction and Korean president would never be like that?

It is such a shame and agony to see how Korean President's death become a subject of derision.

In my point of view, purpose of this movie is clear. Kissing ass of President Roh and Bring down the Park Gyun Hye, daughter of President Park, current leader of Grand Old Party.

I hate lefties!! I hate Socialists!! I hate Im sang soo!!!

and I hate this piece of trash movie.

Timigah:

Um, it's a movie! The very fact that it is one means it's fiction. Even if it was a straightforward documentary, there would likely be some mistruths in it (just look at Michael Moore's films for an example). But this movie isn't even pretending to be a documentary. Honestly, I know this sounds kind of harsh, but if you go into ANY movie expecting it to be 100% fact, then you are totally naive and you just shouldn't be going to movies in the first place. The filmmakers should not (and ARE not) required to explain this to the audience, as it should be a given. It's people like you (not to mention some people in the Korean legal system) who are contributing to the dumbing down of cinematic expression, not the filmmakers.

Q:
Well, Troy's clearly coming from a predetermined political angle here. I don't think it mattered what PRESIDENT'S LAST BANG actually is like as a movie for him to slam it.

You know, I am a "leftie" but I am willing to accommodate reasoned, persuasive argument about the positive contributions from President Park Chung-hee, that "humanizes" his predicament without portraying him as this "shadowy" figure hidden behind dark shades and military uniform. It would be even better if that argument can be expressed as a good biographical film. I refuse to think that all conservatives and right-wingers are so stupid and obtuse as to be unable to make, or at least finance, a good movie out of a checkered and fascinating character like President Park Chung-hee.

I believe Germany has recently seen a film about Adolf Hitler's last days (is it called BUNKERS? European residents help me here...) and the GREAT German actor Bruno Ganz plays Hitler in it... and it created maelstorm of controversy because apparently this Hitler is considerably "humanized" from the absolutely evil foaming-in-the-mouth madman usually depicted in war movies, etc. If someone like Adolf Hitler can receive a humanized depiction, I don't see why President Park can't.

However, I still get the impression that most Koreans (especially young'uns born after 1970 ^ ^) don't seem to know the extent to which former dictator presidents in Korea have led debauched, morally corrupt lives. They were, among other things, incredible hypcrites and liars who have mastered the art of deceiving people even closest to them and backstabbing them (sometimes literally... meaning they got "offed") if they were no longer useful to them.

From what I have read, the sordid sexual stuff connoted in PRESIDENT'S LAST BANG is hardly an exaggeration from real life. They were in fact a bunch of jopok gangsters... only on a bigger scale. Worse, they conditioned Korean citizens into "respecting" these jopok behavior as if they are legitimate exercise of authority. (Which probably explains why jopok comedy always works with certain constituents of Koreans... and why I hate jopok comedies with such virulence)

I certainly think a lot of responsibility for Pak Ji-man/President's son's unhappiness (he has led a pretty sordid life himself...) should be borne by his father. He did not set down a good example for his son to emulate. I assume the relatively astute aspects of Pak Geun-hye comes from (although she would be first to deny this) working against the lessons his father left. I have a lot of respect for her intelligence and good sense, so I hope in the future she will come clean and admit that yes, my father was not a saint, he was a flawed man, and yes, it is time that Korea moves ahead out of "President Park's legacy," clearly discarding what needs to be discarded.
  
Troy:

Still, this is piece of shit.

I believe film makers should be given the freedom of express on whatever they created or want to create. And I agree that they do not have to explain everyting to the audience.

But They should also consider the social chaos which might be resulted by their creation. They should consider the people who will suffer from their intended creation.

What about the human rights? Does freedom of expression comes ahead of human right? Should we all reveal everyone's personal life because it entertain us? Can we create one's life because it makes such a great movie? Well known people (aka public person) should not have
rights on their human dignity just because they are well known?

In addition, you can not compare Korean movies with Michael Moore's 9/11. ideological conflict in Korea is still "-ing" status. Moore's 9/11 attacked(or criticized) Geroge W Bush in very harsh manner, but it is truely based on fact. (not a single shot from 9/11 is acted out by actors)

Director did not have to show President Park(which is fiction) begging for his life miserably. It was not necessary to show half naked women playing in the pool as if President was licentious.

Most of all, President Park was portraited as if he love to speak Japanese and admired japanese cultures. Why is necessary to make this movie so called black comedy? What is the director trying to accompolish here? Who shall benefit from such movie?

For some people, this might be just ridiculous flick.
But it is not just "um.its movie" When you see the dark intention behind it.

Q:
<<Director did not have to show President Park(which is fiction) begging for his life miserably.

Why? Because he didn't in real life? Were you there?


<<It was not necessary to sho<w half naked women playing in the pool as if President was licentious.>>

He was.

<<Most of all, President Park was portraited as if he love to speak Japanese and admired japanese cultures.>>

He did. Why do you think he called his mock "democratic" party Yushin Jeongwoohoe? Did you know that Jeongwoohoe was the name Ito Hirobumi gave his party in 1900 (Seiyukai in Japanese)? You know who Ito Hirobumi is, right? Some young Koreans only know him as the Japanese guy An Jung-geun shot and killed (see THOMAS AN JUNG-GEUN), which in my opinion illustrates the complete failure of "nationalist" education in Korea.

I am amused that these things about President Park are talked about as if they are "new discoveries" uncovered by Im Sang-soo.

A well-traveled path has no gate/A tongue has no bones
AsiatiGodBorn:
human rights? that's sounds a little odd considering park chung hee was notoriously known for perpetrating violations of human rights on a broad and systematic scale. the "economic miracle" he is considered to be the architect of came at the costs of millions of lives subjected to egregiously exploitive labor laws, conditions and unilateral and corrupt policies. check out "A Single Spark". furthermore, he effectively implemented and enforced the draconian national security law via the KCIA which is still in effect to this day. moreover, park chung hee was indeed an admirer of japanese culture and policy to say the least. he was educated and trained via the japanese army and gov't during japanese colonial rule. in fact he took on a japanese name Okamoto Minoru. his economic plan was deeply rooted in his "admiration" of the meji restoration. in addition, park jung hee loved japan and tried to mold korea into another japan. the KCIA procured japanese videos and music records for park, who enjoyed all things japanese and even fancied himself as being a japanese samurai. park chung hee often conversed in Japanese with Seoul government officials.

though i have yet to see "President's Last Bang", my impression is that the film isn't critical enough in the impact park chung hee had on the millions of korean lives under his dictatorship. it seems more or less a personal expose in a similar fashion of making a film on president bush's past cocaine habits and penchant for driving while drunk or clinton's illicit affairs during his presidential term. however, please correct me if i'm wrong and the film in fact provides insight to the political landscape and circumstances of the time.
Mephisto71:
I agree that even the evil dictators have human right. So does Park. But it still disgusts me.

Troy, if you think President's Last Bang is a bad movie because it does not carry 'correct' facts, I belive you have misundertandings of the nature of fiction and the difference between truth and fact.

Yes, you are right that the Kim Jae-kyu didn't shout Park's old japanese name "Takaki Masao" when he pulled the trigger and it is a pure fiction created by Im Sang-soo. That's a 'fact'.

But it is TRUE that Park was an officer of Japanese army and had deep admiration for the 'samurai spirit'. Have you ever seen Kurosawa's "The Most Beautiful"? I was shocked by that movie because the final days of Janpan just before their lost in WWII were just like 1970's in South Korea. Park created another Japan in South Korea. If you want to call that a "miracle', that's upto you.

Fiction is a medium to convey truth, not fact. And if you think documentary films show only facts, please watch Leni Reifenstahl's "Triumph of the Will". This movie, often cited as one of the most influential documentary films in 20th centurty, makes Hitler look like a demi-god. But there is nothing but facts in the movie, just no truth.

And there's nothing private in Park's death and his sexual life. He used his political power to rape hundreds of young women. That's a harecore crime, no private sex life. And please, please don't tell me it doesn't matter because those women conseually had sex with Park. So called 'Security House', of which only purpose was to provide Park with secret sex, was built by tax money.

Finally, I don't understand why you brought Rho Moohyun into this matter. Do you really believe somehow Rho is connected with making of this movie? Rho encourages President's Last Bang and President's barber to attack oppositional party? That's kind of thing probably Park would have done. (Actually, no. Park would have thrown anybody in his way into jail or beaten the crap out of them in the secret torture chamber of Korean CIA.) Any govermental conspiracy about this movie is your pure speculation, nothing more. You don't have any proof.
Haisan:

Sorry to be inflamatory, but you are one dim bulb, Troy. I'm a conservative and no fan of socialism, but Im's film kicked ass.

Personally, I'm increasingly thinking of tPLB as a critique of power and authoritarianism in general... I don't think Im was trying to make a documentary about PCH.

I think you need to go back to school and take a class on how to interpret literature.

Sang :

As one who grew up in park's era. I should ask this to Troy or any other people.

Which of two world, do you want to live?

One, you can mock or ridcule your president freely without any fear of consequences from it. As almost all of so called "conservatives" in korea are doing now.

Or the other world where you cannot dream of mocking your "great leader" and you will be purnished just by calling the president's name without "Gakha" (which means something like great master).

So.. man, we really need some good mockery for park. Even though the mockery for current president from righty or whatever-why-should-I-care are all so lame, they don't have to wait until he dies and 6 new presidents are elected. We really need good one.

lwang

Public is keen on killing of dictator






February 04, 2005 ㅡ Opening yesterday in 200 theaters nationwide, the film "The President's Last Bang," a black comedy about the assassination of President Park Chung Hee, attracted impressive numbers of older citizens, who are hardly ever seen among first-day moviegoers.
A court this week ordered the movie censored after complaints from Mr. Park's son, Park Ji-man, that it defamed his family. Three minutes and 50 seconds were blacked out.
The controversy appeared to spur interest. Online tickets for downtown multiplex theaters sold out fast, which is uncommon for a film opening on Thursday.
Directed by Lim Sang-soo, whose past productions include the acclaimed "A Good Lawyer's Wife," "Last Bang" describes with sarcasm the events of Oct. 26, 1979, when Mr. Park, regarded both as the father of the Miracle on the Han and a feared military dictator, was murdered by Kim Jae-gyu, the head of the government's spy agency.
At the Dansungsa Theater in Jongno for the morning showing, the film drew both laughs and sighs. The majority of the audience was middle-aged or older.
One 77-year-old gentleman, who did not want to give his name, said, "I'm going to buy 100 tickets for my whole family and friends."
Jeong Ji-yeong, a college student, said, "I just can't believe we're still living in times where the freedom of expression is threatened. I came to see the morning screening, because I was dying to know how much of the film was cut out."
The film starts and ends with the blacked out segments, which originally contained actual news footage of President Park's funeral and from civil disturbances in 1979.
U Byeong-chan, 66, said, "I don't think we should make too much fuss over the bygone past. But the descriptions that made fun of the characters were hard for me to take."
The film's producer, MK Pictures, said yesterday it had filed a countersuit, seeking a trial to determine if the intact movie defames President Park.


by Chun Su-jin <sujiney@joongang.co.kr>  

*因为政治的影响,这个电影的发行还是受到了影响,CJ在一月份的时候宣布不再作为这个电影的发行商(据说CJ的高层和朴系有关系的),在韩国全国只有180间影院上映这个电影(同时期的<公共之敌2>有380间,<马拉松>和<B男子>也都有三百多间上映),但在三天的电影放映期间,还是吸引了近十五万人次观看了这个电影,尤其是一些以前基本上不会积极的去看电影的中年人,看过电影的人普遍的反映还是不错的.

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阿韩

还好删掉的是记录片部分，比较无所谓。
再说，本来就不想看到那家人的丑陋嘴脸。无数人用生命换来的尝试，十几年民主自由的努力，又被这些家伙的血盆大口喷上了污点。切，没人理了，蹦出来狂叫几声，心中切喜“OMG~我的声音好好听啊~终于有人听得到了”，趁机炒作自己。
就像金泳三，过气的总统，没人理了，心理不平衡，偶尔跳出来说些奇怪的话，好乞求别人的注意嘛！

放映的电影院少了，肯定是政治原因（至于法律，不过是表面文章），但不是政府行为，主要是某些政治小丑、保守派在腥风作浪。朴政熙，生前就不会容忍任何人对他说“不”字。的现在那些“前朴遗老”，也容不得别人对他们偶像的半点批评。
会去看这部的都是年轻人。年轻一代与老KK一代的割裂，本就是韩国政治格局的现状。
JSA在上映时，很多老一代保守派也在影院门前抗议，有的还把玻璃门给砸了。

Originally posted by lwang at 2005-2-4 05:16 PM:
*大邱是朴的老家吗?或者得到过朴的什么好处?抗议,反对首映?
网上的意见相当有意思,肯定的意见还是占多数,认为是非常好的电影,但是非常有意思的是,否定的意见也是相当极端,认为这电影一钱不值,就象DARCY说的,有人认为这电影是'垃圾",有人认为是一个里程碑.不过,ANYWAY,我对这个电影充满信心.
首映的票房卖得还很不错啊

朴政熙的家乡在庆尚北道善山郡（现为龟尾市）。大邱是庆尚北道的道厅，那的人自然会抗议。

[ Last edited by 阿韩 on 2005-2-7 at 03:25 PM ]

lwang

CONECO: (回答TROY的话)

Truly sorry you didn't like the movie.

Just one point.
I saw the movie day before yesterday, and at the beginning, a message was displayed on the screen.
The message clearly made the point that the movie was entirely fictional, and how any message can discribe this point more clearly in words, I have absolutely no idea.

Additionally, I don't care if it is a lefty movie or righty, uppy, forwardy, or whatever. It was a great film and I got a lot of laughs out of it.
Also it gave me a lot to think about, to speculate on.

Again, sorry you hated it so much, and I hope you'll see a movie that'll taste to you better the next time.

lwang

I saw this movie yesterday. It was a very good movie. Up to 2/3 of the movie, I thought this movie is really excellent, if you are not blinded by foolish hatred like someone here, you can find what I meant when you see this movie.

But after the Kim (Baek Yun-sik) left the safe house (where the killing was happened), the film lost lots of its power somehow. After that point, I was thinking "when this movie is going to end" and that is not a good sign. Neverthless, this movie was a well-made and clever movie.

Maybe it is because I knew what happended afterward, thus I don't need the explanations. If you don't know the backstory, you will want to know about the fate of the charators, what will happened to the girls? Will that poor bald guy survive? etc. In that sense I was totally spoiled since I lived that time. I think it will work much better to foreigners and younger viewers who do not know the details of events.

Also I think the direction was much stronger when all the event was confined in the infamouis safe house. At the end, there are too many new charactors and camera was too busy to follow charactors in too many different locations. Still there were some good moments at the end.

Acting was also excellent for most of charactors, Baek Yun-sik (save my green planet, big swindle) is just as excellent as his previous film. Han Suk-gyu (Shiri, Christmas in August) did also very good job.

The singer at the event was played by an actual singer Kim Yun-ah (vocal of one of most popular rock band Jaurim), I cannot say she was excellent but she did a adequate job.

Director Im did a small role in the movie. He plays an doctor who checks Bae Yun-sik, and advises him to resign the job because of his health. I am sorry that I cannot say he is a natural actor

There are several cameos but only who familar with Korean pop-culture will recognize them. Noticeble cameo was the soldier who stops Han almost at the end of film. He is Bong Tae-gyu who played a highschool boy who had affair with Moon Sori in "Good Lawyer's wife".

I heard they replaced the cut scenes with black screen. There was a brief black screen at the beginning of the movie, but I could not notice it at the end. I think they just cut the last part. I hope they can be restored sooner or later.

[ Last edited by lwang on 2005-2-9 at 09:59 PM ]

lwang

'그때 그사람들' 장기상영 노린다

(서울=연합뉴스) 김병규 기자 = 법원의 삭제 조건 상영 허가와 이에 대한 찬반 논쟁, 배급사의 배급 포기 등으로 힘겨운 출발을 한 영화 '그때 그사람들'(감독 임상수)이 장기상영 체제로 돌입한다.
이 영화의 제작ㆍ배급사 MK픽처스에 따르면 '그때 그사람들'은 지난 3일(일부 극장 2일 개봉) 개봉 이후 12일까지 전국 80여만명의 관객을 모았다.

선전한 편이지만 연간 성수기 중 하나인 설 극장가에서 상영됐다는 점을 감안하면 기대에 못미치는 성적이다.

사실상의 설연휴인 7∼10일 서울지역 관객 수는 10만8천300명으로 경쟁작 '말아톤'(21만9천명)과 '공공의 적2'(19만2천500명), 그리고 8∼10일 사흘간 '콘스탄틴'의 18만5천명에도 못미쳤다.

경쟁작들에 비해 낮은 스코어지만 제작사가 위안을 삼고 있는 것은 좌석수 대비 관객 동원력이 높다는 사실이다. 전국 스크린 수가 191개로 '말아톤'(308개)이나 '공공…'(370개)에 한참 뒤지는 데다 객석 수는 3만1천석으로 '말아톤'(6만6천석)과 '공공…'(8만5천석)의 절반에도 한참 미치지 못했다.

특히 '그때…'의 상영관은 상당수가 경쟁작들에 비해 적은 객석 규모이며 또 일부 극장에서는 다른 영화와 교차상영되며 관객을 만나고 있다.

MK픽처스의 박제현 마케팅실장은 "기존 배급사의 갑작스런 배급 포기로 제작사가 자체 배급을 준비했으나 대형 배급사들과의 경쟁에서 약세를 보일 수밖에 없는 실정이었기 때문에 스크린과 좌석을 확보하기에는 역부족이었다"고 설명했다.

이어 "하지만 높은 객석 점유율을 보이며 선전하고 있고 관객의 평가가 좋은 편이다. 특히 30~40대 관객의 관람도 늘고 있다"고 설명하며 "스크린 수를 유지하면서 장기 상영을 통해 관객을 유인하는 전략을 세우고 있다"고 밝혔다.

한석규, 백윤식, 김윤아 등이 출연하는 '그때…'은 10ㆍ26 사태를 모티브로 대통령이 살해된 하룻밤의 얘기를 다룬 블랙 코미디 영화로, 이 영화에 대해 박정희 전 대통령의 아들 박지만 씨는 고인에 대한 명예훼손이라며 상영금지 가처분 신청을 법원에 제출했고 법원은 일부 장면 삭제를 조건으로 상영을 허용하는 일부 인용 결정을 내린 바 있다.

한편 제작사는 이 영화가 박 전대통령의 명예를 훼손했는지 여부를 가리는 본안소송을 통해 최대한 빠른 시간 안에 삭제 없이 원본으로 상영하는 것을 추진할 계획이다.

법원은 지난 7일 가처분 신청인 박지만 씨에 제소명령을 내린 바 있으며 박씨측이 애초에 밝힌 대로 제소를 할 경우 본안 소송에 대한 판결은 통상 2~5개월 뒤에 내려진다.

bkkim@yna.co.kr (끝)

在法院要求删节后上映,然后是配给商(CJ)由于政治的原因在电影放映前的临时的抛弃,使得这个电影的配给--电影上映馆--严重不足(光靠MK自己的配给是远远不能和大型的配给商竞争的).

在全韩只有191间电影馆放映这个片子,这191间电影院可容纳的观众数只有31000席,相对于"马拉松"的308馆,66000席,和"公共之敌2"的370馆,85000席,连一半的水平都没有.

这个电影从3日开封到12日截止,全国观众是80余万名,相对于"马拉松"和"公共之敌2"来说,这个数字并不多,但是令制作商欣慰的是它的每席的观众数比"马拉松"和"公共之敌2"要高.

而且这个片子还吸引了三,四十岁以上的中年层的观众观看,在春节期间很多人是一家子来观看这个电影的,反响一般都还不错.很多场次的票都卖尽.

从这个电影的预售率来看,一直还是保持在稳定的10-13%之间,( "公共之敌2"和"B男子"受到基努.李维斯的新片的冲击比较大,尤其后者,也许因为观众层次相近的原因),看来MK是想打长期作战牌了.(不过如果电影院上映时间越长,出牒片的时间越晚吧?真等不及看这个电影啊,一个非常'FUNNY, BUT FULL OF MEANING"的电影,偶就喜欢这种的)

*从现在的势头看,"马拉松"的票房也许会超"公共之敌2",这种立志,温馨,赚眼泪的作品向来在韩国非常有市场的.以前的"回家",虽然没有什么明星,但是一个老太和一个小孩子照样刮掉了400多万人次的票房.不过一般大众的胃口也差不多吧,想来在中国,即便在美国也许也是一样的情况吧.

lwang

*不过讨论政治的多了,但是也是了解这个电影背景的一个好的资料.

S. Koreans Revising Image of Nation's Elite
Film, Truth Panel Seen by Some as Attack on Wealthy

By Anthony Faiola
Washington Post Foreign Service
Sunday, February 13, 2005; Page A29

SEOUL -- The politically charged film "The President's Last Bang" is a shot at the heart of the South Korean establishment.

The main target: Park Chung Hee, the South Korean president, conservative icon and former military leader who was gunned down in 1979 after 18 years in power.

Park was venerated by conservatives as a hero who faced down communist North Korea while turning his country into an economic success. But the film, which opened this month to cheers and jeers, casts him as a philandering drunk with a traitorous soft spot for Korea's former occupiers, the Japanese.

South Korea's wealthy elite -- represented by Park's ministers, aides and henchmen -- are portrayed as degenerates torturing communists and gorging on luxury foods, excessive drink and easy women while displaying disregard for the common man. More than a lashing administered by one director, the movie captures the national mood.

South Korea's upper classes -- which have succeeded in amassing enormous wealth over the past three generations -- are calling themselves the victims of an anti-establishment crusade designed chiefly to discredit the pillars of politics and commerce who have long opposed North Korea. Analysts and political experts, in turn, describe it as part of the ideological debate raging as South Korea undergoes the broadest re-examination of national history since the annexation of Korea by Japan in 1910.

President Roh Moo Hyun signaled changes when he took office two years ago on a vow to bring economic equality to the world's 10th-largest economy. Since then, the government has moved to raise property taxes on the wealthy, limit the power of the conservative-run print media and impose tighter controls on South Korea's family-founded conglomerates, including Samsung, the world's largest electronics firm.

In a country where saving face matters, wealthy South Koreans are alarmed by what they view as an assault on their reputations through the creation of a new truth commission investigating World War II-era Japanese collaborators and the release of embarrassing, long-sealed documents from the anti-communist Park era. The yet-to-be-named individuals and institutions, analysts say, are likely to incur profound public scorn.

"The ones who enriched themselves through anti-nationalist acts have been at the center of power until now," said Park Ki Choon, a leading legislator from Roh's ruling Uri Party, which took control of the National Assembly from conservatives last year for the first time in half a century. "We are not trying to punish anybody, we are trying to set history straight."

On Dec. 29, the Uri Party pressed a bill through the National Assembly creating the sweeping new commission to investigate South Koreans who collaborated with the Japanese occupation from 1910 to 1945. Top analysts predict the commission's eventual list of names will read like a Who's Who in South Korea.

The re-examination of the past reaches far beyond one commission. Last month, the Roh government released previously sealed documents from the Park Chung Hee era in what many analysts saw as a maneuver to discredit Park and his daughter, Park Geun Hye, who now heads the opposition and is Roh's main political rival. Among other revelations, the documents disclosed what opponents characterized as the scandalous terms of a 1965 agreement that Park struck with the Japanese on the issue of war compensation, settling all current and future compensation claims against Tokyo for $800 million in grants and loans. The release sparked an outcry from South Korean victims of the Japanese occupation who have spent years unsuccessfully seeking retribution in the courts.

Roh's supporters are also pushing to expand the scope of the truth commission to include those who engaged in human rights abuses and wrongfully benefited under the later military dictatorships, including that of the anti-communist Park Chung Hee from 1961 to 1979. Although plagued by human rights abuses, it was a time when powerful business leaders greatly expanded their personal wealth as South Korea quickly industrialized into a modern economy.

But inequities between rich and poor remain. Statistics show the number of South Koreans earning less than the minimum wage of $3 an hour is troublingly on the rise -- climbing to 1.25 million in 2004 from 850,000 in 2002.

Part of the reappraisal focuses on the deceased parents or grandparents of the powerful and wealthy. For example, Park Won Kuk, 76, lost control of Seoul's prestigious Duksung Women's University in 2001 amid charges that his mother, Song Keum Sun, secured ownership of the university after collaborating with the Japanese. Several years ago, a group of professors and students alleged that Song, who died in 1980s, had praised Japan's wartime Emperor Hirohito and headed a housewives association during the occupation. Charges against Song sparked student riots and an internal power struggle in which Park was ousted.

"The people of that era had no choice! The Japanese were in charge!" said Park, his voice shaking as he sat in a traditional chair of wood and mother of pearl at his elegant home in one of Seoul's finest neighborhoods. "They are attacking the people who built this nation into what it is today -- the people who protected us from communism!"

He said he was fighting to win back control of the school. But he said he "will never again be able to hold my head in public as a Korean" if his mother is named as a collaborator. Park Ki Choon, the Uri legislator, and other supporters of the probes deny their motives are political or that they are attacks on the establishment. Human rights advocates, historians and leaders of the Uri Party note that South Korea, unlike the nations of Western Europe occupied by Germany during World War II, never went through a broad purge of known collaborators. Rather, critics say that those South Koreans who collaborated with the Japanese and South Korea's own anti-communist dictators were rewarded.

Such allegations underscore the deep divisions in South Korean society, particularly among the old and conservative, who distrust Roh's rapprochement with North Korea and his reformist agenda, and the young and liberal, who largely support it.

The legacy of Park Chung Hee a quarter-century after his death remains one of the most divisive issues plaguing the nation.

Conservatives have held up Park as the foremost father of the nation, a patriot who lost his wife to a North Korean assassin's bullet and was gunned down by his own intelligence chief. Reformists, meanwhile, view him as a self-indulgent and brutal dictator who massacred and jailed students and pro-democracy demonstrators -- several of whom now rank among President Roh's top aides.

"The President's Last Bang," directed by Lim Sang Soo, is an assault on Park's reputation. In the dramatization of his assassination, Park, a former schoolteacher who joined the Japanese army during Tokyo's occupation of the Korean Peninsula, is shown delighting in Japanese song and culture. In one scene, the movie shows his intelligence chief calling Park by the Japanese name assigned to him during World War II, just before pulling the trigger. Later, Park's daughter -- now chairwoman of the opposition Grand National Party -- is shown in actual newsreel footage mourning at his funeral.

Park's only son, Park Ji Man, sued to stop the film's release. As with South Koreans' own views on Park, the court's verdict was mixed. It allowed the movie to go into release -- but only after mandated cuts of the original newsreels, including those showing Park's powerful daughter at the coffin of her controversial father. The court claimed that the scenes could lead viewers to "confuse fiction with reality.''

"This is not a campaign for vengeance," said Park Ki Choon, who is not related to the Park Chung Hee or Park Won Kuk families. "The only way to heal the nation is to examine our past, no matter how painful that may be."

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lwang

---《那时代，那些人》将韩国电影早期盛行的黑色幽默再度发扬光大

本片最初是作为政治片来宣传的，自称是前所未有的史实大公开，一部前无古人后无来者的问题电影，而韩国前总统朴正熙的儿子要求禁映该片的起诉，更是吸引了众多眼球。最后韩国法院的判决也算奇特，要求制片方删掉其中穿插的真实史料画面，再删掉釜马学生游行，前总统朴正熙的葬礼和红衣大主教悼念的三处真实图像资料后，影片可以正式播放，否则每轮将处以3000万韩元（约合30万人民币）的罚款。法院的理由是除掉这三处资料片以后，由于影片内容也一直避开提到人物的真实姓名，所以不会误导观众认为这是真实的事件，本片只是根据史实虚构再创作的内容。而根据韩国的法律要充分保证创作自由权的，如此判决反而有掩耳盗铃的嫌疑。
韩国人用了一句很有意思的比喻来定义本片-----猛虎细嗅玫瑰，豪迈与细腻的完美统一。
本片详细记述了1979年10月26日发生的军政府总统朴正熙被刺事件，虽然从头到尾没有提到这个人的名字，但大家都茶壶里倒汤圆----心里有数。看片之前，心里确实有点惶恐，虽然对该事件略知一二，但按照中国人的观点，如此重大的政治事件，看之前一定要做好功课的，不仅要把前因后果，来龙去脉弄得清清楚楚，更要把各党各派，复杂的人物关系摸得一清二楚，否则只怕到时错综复杂搞不清关系，也看不出其中的奥妙。可最后由于时间仓促，只好硬着头皮上了。故事出人意料的简单，在韩国创立军人政权，独裁执政十八年的朴正熙前总统，又因为他为韩国经济的腾飞做了难以抹煞的贡献，使得后人对他众说纷纭，评价不一，而他的死因更是一格谜，他死在他最信任的手下----中央情报局部长金载圭手上。
从电影来看，这次谋杀并不是一个预先布置绵密的计划，而是该情报局局长（白允植饰）一时兴起，外加他患有轻度妄想症，于是呼喊着为了民主的口号，枪杀了总统，事前没有充分的理由，事后也没有后续计划，完全是一幕人性悲喜剧。曾主演过《八月圣诞节》，《绿鱼》，《伤心街角恋人》等多部名作的演技派明星韩石圭这次在电影里扮演协助刺杀的情报局朱科长，朱科长平时的主要任务是“照顾总统的女人”，他参与这次事件似乎也没有特别的动机，不外是不满意钱和既得利益，似乎是权力斗争的结果。影片最后结尾也是该事件的结局，金部长及其参与刺杀的四名手下全部被选派死刑。
该片不同于同类题材影片之处在于更注重事件中小人物的细腻情感，金戈铁马气吞山河之中有英雄落寞，舔犊情深，处处充满着黑色幽默，比如金部长开枪打了朴正熙一枪之后，惟恐他没有死彻底，又上前来抓住他脑袋补了一枪，朴总统临死前的最后一句话是：“怎么还有一枪。”
该片的导演是韩国著名导演林常树，曾经拍过《开心见性》，《偷情家族》等片，这次他并不象宣传里所说的是在拍一部反映史实的政治片，因为从头到尾没有看到他的政治见解和立场，即没有什么社会进化论，也没有什么民主论，他只是用一副漠不关心的口吻，带着几丝冷笑，冷眼看待每个人的命运。也许他对每个人都有些同情的，垂垂老矣，处在权力斗争的中心，高处不胜寒的朴正熙总统，由于扮演他的这个演员实在面目和善，让人恨不起来。枪杀朴总统的金部长由于受到了警备室长得藐视，一时冲动外加上为了民主，于是举起了枪。每个人都是那么平凡，有血有肉，既是加害者，也是受害者，于是一切都发生得再自然，再偶然不过了。大中取小，正是该导演的一贯特色。
影片虽然题材严肃，但观众中也不乏年轻人，还有更多是一家三口一起来观看的，看来韩国人对电影题材的接受已经相当多样性。

xcapril

看了楼主提供的历史资料，再看这部电影，偶觉得林导拍得很有深度呢！
另外，先不提主角，个人觉得片中的配角更出彩，如演总统的老演员，看他以前总是演爷爷爸爸之类的角色，他在这里的表演真是让我眼前一亮。
还有尹汝贞的表演也非常出色。（她在《偷情家族》中扮演婆婆。）尤其是她在片子结尾时的画外音令人叫绝。韩国人说她的嗓音是“世上唯一的”----的确不一般！
影版效果差了一些，不时传出人们在电影院咳嗽和讲话的声音，不过还好，这些并不影响偶的情绪，反而增加了真实感。
啰嗦了一些，只是想说：这部电影确实值得一看！

lwang

Originally posted by xcapril at 2005-4-8 10:38 PM:
看了楼主提供的历史资料，再看这部电影，偶觉得林导拍得很有深度呢！
另外，先不提主角，个人觉得片中的配角更出彩，如演总统的老演员，看他以前总是演爷爷爸爸之类的角色，他在这里的表演真是让我眼前一亮。
还 ...

哇,真厉害,你已经看过枪版的啦.偶还在找呢,外面有卖枪版的了吗?

lwang

Variety is reporting that THE PRESIDENT'S LAST BANG has been confirmed for the Director's Fortnight section of the Cannes film festival. The official announcement will come in a couple weeks, but the article made it seem that it was pretty much a sure thing.

Though it won't get nearly as much press coverage as the films in the competition section, this will be good for the film both locally and internationally. Locally it should hopefully provide some pressure to speed up the appeals process, which seems to be on the slow train to nowhere at the moment. Internationally it will lend the film some prestige, and also get the premiere out of the way, so it can start to screen at other festivals.

I've been hearing bad news on the video/DVD front, though. The video is coming out soon, and it will be the censored version. The DVD, apparently, is going to come down to the wire. It is scheduled to come out either this month or next, I think, and Myung Films was hoping a judgement would come before the release. If the original decision is overturned, then they can release the uncut version. If the decision takes place later, they will release the censored version. I'm not sure if they'd re-issue it later or not.

The same sort of issues apply to the screening at Cannes -- as things stand now, it will be illegal to screen the uncensored version in Cannes unless the decision is overturned on appeal. Stay tuned.

--Darcy


P.S. The same article also said that LADY VENGEANCE and also Hong Sang-soo's film would be more likely to turn up at Venice instead. Kim Ki-duk's THE BOW has a good chance at landing a competition slot, particularly as there aren't as many high profile Asian films this year.