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【2006KBS】【Goodbye Solo】【已播毕】【7人协奏】理解面前,我何尝不是solo……

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发表于 2006-4-5 23:56 | 显示全部楼层
多谢社区提供的帐号(gs2006), 我可以在KBS网上点击ON AIR >2TV 实时看Goodbye Solo, 画面质量还不错,郁闷的是没听懂,猜都没法猜。先讲个大概吧。

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发表于 2006-4-6 00:05 | 显示全部楼层
-敏浩在小英的病房外见到了志安,两人到外面聊,听到志安好象说了一句“对不起”,志安先离开,敏浩把啤酒罐狠狠地摔在地上...

-志秀见了美莉,应该是说了与混混的过去,希望美莉别误会。。美莉给混混发短信,混混回电,美莉说话的语气很柔和。

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发表于 2006-4-6 00:18 | 显示全部楼层
-志安手里拿着郑都英的名片,犹豫了片刻后打手机给?,天!难道他真的要出卖敏浩父亲的公司? 我现在能理解他!!!也希望小英能康复啊
-美英奶奶含着泪听女儿哭诉,还是一句话不说。
-英淑住院了(和志秀同一间医院),秀希与美莉去探望她,三人到了KTV唱歌发泄了一通。
-美莉对秀希提到了志安,可能在说志安的家庭吧,因为看到秀希吃惊紧接着眼含泪水,起身就走了。
-最后结束的镜头是秀希与志安通电话,志安平静,秀希激动,他们说了什么

耐人寻味的一个镜头是敏浩从一栋楼前经过,错过了从楼里出来的秀希,两人朝相反方向走了。伴随着熟悉的伤感音乐,看来预示着什么...

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 楼主| 发表于 2006-4-6 00:34 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 shl888888 于 2006-4-6 00:18 发表
耐人寻味的一个镜头是敏浩从一栋楼前经过,错过了从楼里出来的秀希,两人朝相反方向走了。伴随着熟悉的伤感音乐,看来预示着什么...  


啊,谢谢shl888888的在线剧情喔!应该是剧情明朗化的时候了。
那个镜头寓意着两人会分手吧。

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 楼主| 发表于 2006-4-6 00:42 | 显示全部楼层
官网第12集预告片

mms://vodt.kbs.co.kr/event/2tv/dra_goodbyesolo/prev12_m.asf

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发表于 2006-4-6 01:54 | 显示全部楼层

  지요
  2006/04/04 15:37:39

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  사랑해

  니가 마지막이 아닐수도 있겠지..

  우리가 헤어질수도 있겠지?

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  지안이랑 너랑은 2년을 만났는데...

  너랑 나랑은 석달두 안된게 슬퍼...

  지안이랑 너는 그 시간동안 싸우고 화해하고 위하고 그 많은 추억이 있는데

  나랑은 별루 없는게...

  나는 어서 어서 시간이 가서 너랑 지안이보다 더 많은 추억이

  우리에게 쌓였으면 좋겠어

  


  

                               
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  김민호...왜 니가 가고싶은 곳이 남쪽섬인지 ....

  
  섬이니까.. 섬엔 배가 없으면 못 나오잖아.

  싸워도, 미워두 쉽게.. 육지에 사는 사람들처럼 떠나버릴 생각 못 할거 같아.

  떠나는 자체가 힘드니까!

  

                               
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发表于 2006-4-6 02:04 | 显示全部楼层

  

                               
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发表于 2006-4-6 02:19 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 途汀 于 2006-4-5 22:23 发表


qizhimin1975用哪个网址看的?这集讲什么了?大概说说吧~我想看根本连不上~好像shl888888亲也看在先了,说说剧情吧。


试试下面这个链接吧!
http://board3.cgiworld.dreamwiz. ... ;ino=8&tmp_no=8

我为了能看上今天的首播,提前好几个小时就开始在线看这个台的节目了。为了保险起见,我同时开了两个视频,一个是上面的那个网址,一个是KBS的在线电视,前一个比后一个稍有延迟,效果都还可以,偶尔有卡的现象,楼主明天可以试试。

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发表于 2006-4-6 12:22 | 显示全部楼层

   <굿바이, 솔로> 배종옥에 시청자 열광   [2006/04/05]


  

                               
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  '굿바이, 솔로' 배종옥에 시청자 열광

  
매주 수, 목 밤 9시 55분 2TV

  노희경 작가가 드라마 제작발표회장에서 '7명이 모두 주인공인 드라마"라고 말했을때만해도 반신반의했다.

  한둘도 아닌 일곱명이 이야기를 그리면 갈등구조도 흐트러지고 시선도 집중되지 못할텐데 하는 우려가 들었기 때문이다. 하지만 방송이 중반을 넘어서며 우려는 기대로 바뀌고 역시 노작가의 내공을 인정 하게된다.

  노작가의 다중적인 스토리 라인을 힘있게 끌고 나가는 배경에는 두사람이 있다.

  배종옥과 나문희다.

  죽어라 고생하며 돈벌어 남편 공부 뒷바라지 하지만 그 남편과 자식에게 버림받는 40대 영숙(배종옥 )과 과거의 아픈 상처로 말문이 막혀 말을 하지 못하며 조그마한 식당을 운영하는 미영이 할머니(나문희 )가 그들이다.

  지문으로 처리된 미영의 표정 및 몸짓 대사를 소화해 내는 나문희의 능숙하고 천연덕스러운 연기에 감탄이 절로 난다. 굳이 말하지 않아도 연기할 수 있다는 것을 나문희를 보면 인정하게 된다.

  시청자 게시판에도 두 중견 연기자의 칭찬글이 가득하다.

  "어쩜 연기인지, 실제인지 구분이 안가시게 연기를 하시는지, 정말 대단하세요!!"

  "다른 장면들도 마찬가지지만, 그 장면 보면서 몸에 소름이 돋더라구요. 계속 좋은 여기 기대할게요!!" 등등

  

                               
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  처음 배종옥이 오영숙 역을 제의 받았을 때 낮설고 새로운 캐릭터라 난감해 했단다.

  그래서 '굿바이, 솔로' 작픔 들어가기전에 노희경 작가와 많은 이야기를 했다고 한다.

  배종옥은 그동안 노희경 작가와 수년간 작업 해온 덕에 노 작가가 영숙이에게서 뭘 원하는지 눈치로 안다는 것이다.

  노작가는 영숙역을 놓고 많은 고민을 했다.

  현재 드라마나 영화에서 활동하는 40대 배우가 그리 많지 않고 난해한 영숙역을 소화해 내기에는 믿을 만한 연기자가 필요했고 그게 바로 배종옥이었다는 것이다.

  배종옥도 노작가 작품을 선택할때는 노작가가 제시한 캐릭터를 보고 배역을 맡는다. 영숙역도 마찬가지로 배종옥식으로 소화했다. 불쌍하지만 우울한 이미지는 갖지 않겠다는것이다.

  배종옥에게는 원칙이 있다. 작품에 양다리를 걸치지 않는다는 것. 현재도 영화 몇 작품 제의가 들어와 있지만 모두 '굿바이, 솔로'이후로 결정을 미뤘다.

  나흘을 '굿바이, 솔로'촬영에 보내고 하루는 중앙대 강의를 나간다. 연극과 겸임교수로 강의해 온지 벌서 4년이다. 중앙대에서 대학원생으로 공부를 했고 강사로 나가다 겸임교수까지 맡게된 것이다.

  똑 소리나는 배종옥의 연기에는 이런 배경이 있었다.

  

                               
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  남편에게, 자식에게 잊혀지는 40대 여자, 오영숙.

  그가 뱉어낼 독설 같은 명대사가 그녀를 당당한 '굿바이, 솔로'주인공으로 인정하고 있다.

  
 

  http://tvzonebbs.media.daum.net/griffin/do/talk/program/goodbyesolo/read?bbsId=139_a&articleId=483&pageIndex=1&searchKey=readCount&searchValue=100

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 楼主| 发表于 2006-4-6 12:33 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 qizhimin1975 于 2006-4-6 02:19 发表


试试下面这个链接吧!
http://board3.cgiworld.dreamwiz. ... ;ino=8&tmp_no=8

我为了能看上今天的首播,提前好几个小时就开始在线看这个台的节目了。 ...


今天我不大可能看上啊,晚上还有课。

昨晚第11集的收视有上升,11.1%。收视群还是比较稳定的~

今晚英淑该向奶奶说妈妈的事了。我觉得她的心结解开后,接下来奶奶和女儿的关系也会处理好的。

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发表于 2006-4-6 12:51 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 途汀 于 2006-4-5 23:30 发表
官网第12集剧情简介
敏浩爸给了敏浩他亲生父亲的地址。知道美莉把志安的事告诉了秀希,敏浩很生气。秀希理解志安,跟敏浩变得有些疏远,心更加混乱。美莉说还喜欢着浩哲,不想就这样结束。住院的英淑因为孩子们很伤心,向照顾自己的美英奶奶讲起了从没向任何人讲过的妈妈的故事, ...


补充一点:敏浩跟秀希见面后,秀希很痛恨他一直一来都对她隐瞒志安的事,她对此难以理解,他们俩因此渐渐疏远。。。
要手术的英淑最终美国的儿女还是没来探望她,她再一次伤透了心。。。

11集:사랑? 이해? 죄책감에서 벗어나는 것? (爱?理解?洗脱罪恶感?) 感觉在说每一个人。。。

[ 本帖最后由 iltm2000 于 2006-4-6 12:55 编辑 ]

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 楼主| 发表于 2006-4-6 13:01 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 iltm2000 于 2006-4-6 12:51 发表


补充一点:敏浩跟秀希见面后,秀希很痛恨他一直一来都对她隐瞒的志安的事,她对此难以理解,他们俩因此渐渐疏远。。。
要手术的英淑最终美国的儿女还是没来探望她,她再一次伤透了心。。。

11集:사 ...


喔,iltm2000懂韩语吧。秀希也不至于痛恨吧……现在觉得这戏的主题里有很大一部分是关于理解的。秀希还能理解敏浩么……

PS:iltm2000亲,你现在是看《流氓医生》还是看《Goodbye Solo》呢?

[ 本帖最后由 途汀 于 2006-4-6 13:05 编辑 ]

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 楼主| 发表于 2006-4-6 14:00 | 显示全部楼层

                               
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 楼主| 发表于 2006-4-6 14:51 | 显示全部楼层
She loves him, he loves her. Something is in the air, something making them forget about everything else, about work (they don't need money to live), family (they just need each other) and friends; something that bonds them in ways stronger than any other force governing the world, defying physics (get hit by the killer minivan, but you're back 3 episodes later), laws and blood relations (you're my sister? No problem, I love you anyway). Like the title of a recent Daily Drama suggests, on Korean TV '사랑은 아무도 못말려 (nobody can stop love)', even reality, as most Trendy Dramas are simply content with wrapping ridiculously trite plots around the idea that love is forever, and when people get rid of obstacles life puts on their way, they can live their relationship with purity and innocence.

Just like a Yoon Seok-Ho Drama, or SBS' latest ridiculous attempt at shaking things a little with 백만장자와 결혼하기 (To Marry a Millionaire), starting as the Korean Joe Millionaire, and ending as the Bizarro World version of a shinpa from the 70s. Love can be a really simple ordeal on Korean TV: get an attractive couple, throw in an antagonist in the middle to sustain the usual 삼각관계 (love triangle) and you're done. Here's your Drama. Real life problems, conflicts, all the things which happen in a real relationship and can influence it? Nahhh... no need for that, because 'nobody can stop love.' Yet there's salvation somewhere out there, if you dig deep enough, salvation which comes from names like Kim Soo-Hyun, In Jung-Ok, and of course Noh Hee-Kyung, whose 굿바이 솔로 (Goodbye Solo) is delighting those viewers 'brave' enough to experience a taste of realism, throwing Cinderellas and Bad Girls in the trash bin.

The 'Queen of Home Dramas' Kim Soo-Hyun and her 가족주의 (family-ism), with veteran Kim Hee-Ae as her muse; In Jung-Ok and her urban melodramas, perhaps the best writer in the entire country (Film or Drama) when it comes to capturing the struggles of young Koreans in the metropolis; the bleak 'Drama Verite' of Noh Hee-Kyung, so realistic they hit dangerously close to home, unless your home lies somewhere in Andromeda. Of course there's other names, like Weekend Drama Wizard Kim Jung-Soo of 장미와 콩나물 (Roses & Beansprouts) and 한강수 타령 (Ode to the Han River), Lee Kyung-Hee of 미안하다 사랑한다 (I'm Sorry, I Love You) (yeah, let's forget that there's anything 'To Kill' in her career, OK? Shht...) and others. But when it comes to delivering quality on a consistent basis, those three are the big names. Now we know In Jung-Ok is preparing her upcoming Drama, which will probably star Go Hyun-Jung, and of course Kim Soo-Hyun is busy with the remake 사랑과 야망 (Love and Ambition) -- which is a big disappointment, but writing is not to blame. But expectations for Noh Hee-Kyung's next work after the wonderful 꽃보다 아름다워 (More Beautiful Than Flowers) were high. Yes, I did promise I wouldn't talk about the show until it was over, as Noh's Dramas always take a while to make a strong impression on the viewer, no matter how navigated and experienced he or she might be. But just like rewatching 부활 (Rebirth) through that magnificent Director's Cut DVD is bringing back enough thoughts to write a book (and you'll get a Film-sized review of the DVD in a couple of weeks), watching Goodbye Solo has such a strong effect on yours truly I had to write something about it. Now.

She's just 39, but it feels like she lived long enough to last for 5-6 people, as her characters show. While the country is 'enjoying' the latest entries in the puppy love saga -- Yoon Seok-Ho's delirious mess 봄의 왈츠 (Spring Waltz) -- the 'Bok-Shil Goes To Seoul' shenanigans of 넌 어느 별에서 왔니 (Which Star Are You From), and the usual extra-marital escapades shown every Friday night on SBS, there's a little show on KBS2 which might be largely ignored by the mainstream audience, with ratings around the 10 to 12%, but the 'brilliant' marketing we sometimes see in Korea worked its magic once again. Last year Min Gyu-Dong's glorious 내 생애 가장 아름다운 일주일 (All For Love) was compared to Love Actually, ending up as a Magnolia without frogs; this year, we were supposed to get a similar serving on TV with Goodbye Solo, yet it turns out there's very little similarity, with the possible exception of the basic formula (focus on many couples at once instead of the usual one or two). But the biggest surprise is that Noh Hee-Kyung might have just started to consider optimism as something possibly entering her world, which would be a huge change of pace from her past works, if the first half of Goodbye Solo is any indication.

A gangster trying to live life as he's supposed to for once (Lee Jae-Ryong), a young girl who's the only one thinking she's 'boring' (Yoon So-Yi), a seemingly superficial 'cool guy' who hides behind a facade (Cheon Jung-Myung), a woman who survives day by day, slowly eroded by the pain of her past (Bae Jong-Ok), just a few of Noh's seemingly cliched characters. But then again, take a look at the show, just a quarter hour, and you feel as if you lived with them a lifetime. That's the major talent of Miss Noh, that of injecting terabytes of 사람냄새 (smell of real people) in what might look like caricatures, which then gradually turn into people right under our eyes. Because if you decide to live it that way, life can turn into a cliche pretty fast, no matter how 'creative' you think you can be, but Noh finds beauty even in the simplest, most ordinary things. Yet, Goodbye Solo feels different. She already used the 'Love Actually' structure in past Dramas, although it was all tied together by family, but its use here creates a different rhythm compared to past works. It's difficult to explain, especially if you don't have enough patience to see all the doors to this strange world slowly open, which is probably the biggest reason why the show is doing really bad in the ratings, just like most of Noh's other shows. Goodbye Solo is not about love triangles, bad girls and good girls, 2nd generation Chaebols trying to marry off poor girls from the countryside. It's about finding that something that makes life worth living. Confidence? Sure. Happiness? Definitely. Love? Actually... I don't know.

In a world where writers have a couple of days to complete a script for an episode, which is given to the cast in the morning for an afternoon or evening shoot, the amount of stress people like Noh go through while shooting a Drama is difficult to imagine. Yet, with every new show, she's not only been able to escape the pitfalls of the 'on-the-fly' modus operandi (she announced the main script is already completed, all it needs is some basic touching up, which leaves more room for the actors to understand what they're trying to play), but she constantly gets the best out of all the actors cast in her shows, which is why people like Bae Jong-Ok and Lee Jae-Ryong keep coming back. Ask Kim Heung-Soo, who before More Beautiful Than Flowers was simply considered a familiar face on TV, much less an actor; ask Han Go-Eun, who before the 2004 KBS Drama was never considered more than a pretty face, but actually created 'disappointment' with following performances as they didn't measure up to the standards she showed working with Noh. Ask, last in line, Kim Min-Hee, who was criticized left and right (by myself as well, mea culpa) before the show for being nothing more than a pretty face with important connections (her favourite 'oppa' is a certain Lee Jung-Jae) infesting the screens. With the first ever real 'performance' of her career, thanks to Noh's magic even Kim Min-Hee looks like a pulsating, breathing, living human being, not a former model trying to remember what's her next line.

As it stands right now, Goodbye Solo is contending with MBC's Historical Drama 신돈 (Shin Don) for Best TV Drama of 2006 in my book. And it might just have become my favourite Noh Hee-Kyung work. With only a couple of weeks left before its conclusion, and another few weeks before my review of the show, here's a little interview with writer Noh appearing recently on Cine21.

The dialogue expressing love in the show seems particularly meaningful.
Noh Hee-Kyung: I don't really like using words which usually qualify as 'expressions of love'. Ever since I was little, no matter what happened my father continued to cheat on my mother, so I'd keep asking her 'why do you keep living with that man?' I remember she once said 'because I love him', just that. I just think the clearer, the more explicit you get about expressing the reasons why you love someone, the better. When you're in love your point of view is the present, and that only, so I don't know why Dramas keep following this 'love is forever' mantra. So that's why I write dialogue like 'I don't know if that's love, but it's something that changes people', or 'Wouldn't you get tired only loving that man forever?'.

You're showing many different things in this Drama.
Noh: I tried a lot of new things with this show. I lowered the age of the characters, and focused a lot more on relationships between young characters at the beginning; I threw in some mystery ingredients as well, and since I was dealing with seven main characters, I increased the tempo and summarized their development a lot more than usual. In short, I tried to combine elements which would appeal to both old and new, as the story covers all ages.

Every character lives away from home, alone.
Noh: Right from the outline writing process, there were no characters with stable relationships or marriage ties. Instead of simply focusing on the family relationship between the characters, I tried to go beyond that, when acquaintances become something closer to family. Instead of showing the usually 'vertical' relationship between parents and sons, with a 'bottom to top' setup, I tried a more 'horizontal' approach, where mother and daughter see each other on the same level. That opens new opportunities to explore in terms of how people deal with relationships.

Isn't that too difficult a concept to portray on TV?
Noh: I've heard many things from people who think reality is not too appealing, who think I fabricate intrigue and create a sort of 'wicked realism' destroying all the characters inside it. I don't know if there's a wicked side to people, but doesn't someone who believes in beauty live a sort of fantasy within the real world? That's what I am, a writer of 'fantasy realism'. My writing is simply a mechanism to understand other people, I'd just like people to look at my Dramas and think I've portrayed realistic characters.

There's many viewers saying Noh Hee-Kyung is changing.
Noh: After the end of 고독 (Solitude), I went to a monk I knew and said to him crying 'I tried my best to make a good drama, but viewers betrayed me.' After that, for 3 years I kept reading the 금강경 (Diamond Sutra, one the most famous Buddhist sutras and an ode to 'non-abiding'), reflecting on the reasons why I kept writing Dramas, about what I was trying to say writing those shows. If you use the 'ratings are going down, but the show's quality is up' mantra, then you might think I'm trying to distance myself from the mainstream, that I'm trying to do 'literary' works, but that's not my goal. It's a duty of a commercial writer to produce shows that can appeal to the station and viewers since they're the ones who put food on your table, I'm not trying to alienate viewers on purpose.

I've heard your next project will finally reunite you with PD Pyo Min-Soo after a long time.
Noh: That'll be a good chance to see how much we've developed compared to our past works. The main subject hasn't been decided yet, but the thought that there's nothing more pressing in today's society than trying to live a respectable life keeps haunting me, so that's your answer, probably.


仔细读了Mr.X的剧评,尤为认同说《Goodbye Solo》讲的是什么的这句:It's about finding that something that makes life worth living.  Mr.X说《Goodbye Solo》和MBC的历史剧《신돈 》是他认为的2006年最棒的电视剧,《신돈》是《辛盹》 吧。在KBS网上看介绍《Goodbye Solo》OST的网页,形容《Goodbye Solo》的是“명품 드라마”——名作电视剧。卢编剧谈到她这次设定人物关系时,没有用常见的“纵向关系”,而更多地采用了“横向关系”。卢编剧居然花3年读了Diamond Sutra金刚经?我觉得她的人生经历一定是很不一般的。

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我也觉得是最棒的剧集 没有华丽的外表没有灰姑娘般的童话 讲述的就是现实生活中每个人的生活经历,人人都喜欢窥探对方的一切掩饰自的秘密.很真实很贴心.
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